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On Saturday, October 12, 2013 2:12:45 PM UTC-4, Don Johnstone wrote:
At 15:58 12 October 2013, wrote: For a comprehensive discussion of this topic, search RAS for Fatality at PGC. Read the post by Bill. By all means read both references but I implore you to ignore the advice of Bill, he is speaking about something he knows very little about. Don - What, specifically, is wrong with the article? Keeping my hand on the release during the ground roll has saved me from several potential ground loops. I have seen experienced contest pilots ground loop at contests because they could not release quickly. Others have died because of this. During the ground roll, pilots must be ready to release quickly - with their hand on the release - not trying to find it. Bill |
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![]() There is some under-reporting of minor accidents in the UK, and I expect in almost every country. There is no way of knowing the extent, but if for example a German poster here were to admit to knowledge of a minor accident not featured in their national figures, it would confirm the issue in principle. I believe that the figures for fatal accidents are unlikely to be underreported, however. “Serious” accidents might have different interpretations in different countries; I know of no way to be certain of that. So the only reliable statistics seem to me to be fatalities per 100,000 winch launches, which for the UK ought to include the air cadet figures (no fatalities). I do not know if German data includes an equivalent to air cadet data which would not be in DAeC statistics. Perhaps somebody could advise on that. Furthermore, the only fatalities relevant to these discussions are those due to the winch launch itself, and not to (for example) spinning off a final turn at the end of a flight that started with a winch launch. Paul Ruskin’s analysis sought to do that, it seems to me, by summarising the actual events. Chris N |
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