Flanker vs F-15

"Tarver Engineering" wrote in message ...
"John Weiss" wrote in message
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"Tarver Engineering" wrote...


The FAA, US Military and I agree that a simulator is a substitute for
real
flight training. In fact I have no knowlege of anywhere that would not
require simulator time as part of training.

...which displays your ignorance of the subject.

There is NO simulator requirement as part of training for any FAA pilot
certificate short of the ATP. Simulator training is ALLOWED, but not
required.

Do you like this better?

In fact I have no knowlege of anywhere that would not
require simulator time as part of *military* training.

Allowed refutes the monkey sock's cluelessness too, Johnny.
I wouldn't speak for the US Military or the FAA if I were you Tarver.
You're so full of crap. NO military would ever admit that sims are a
substitute for flying - what they are are nice complements to a flying
program, great for procedures and emergency practice. I totally
understand your perspective though-it's basically identical to that of
every geek I've met who have bags of hours in the sim but have never
flown in a real jet, and as a result have no perspective on the
limitations of a sim. Let's face it Tarver - if you've got no time on
the pole of a real airplane your perspective is going to be a little
lacking. I'm tired of your constant rhetoric and insults to team
minded aviation professionals - I don't really care about what you say
about me - I'm a relatively new military pilot (just under 2000
hours)so i'm used to taking criticism, but I know a LOT of experienced
guys who would kick your ass over your ****ty attitude. You as a
support person need to remember you're working FOR the guys flying
these airplanes in war. If you can't deal with their opinions maybe
you shoule be doing something else. So you've flown a sim around a
bit. So what. So have I and to be honest I find that boring and
unrepresentative of real aircraft performance.If these sims you are
talking about are so great, screw it - let's just get rid of all of
the flying except for in war. Oh wait, no, lets clone a bunch of
tarvers, then we won't even need pilots at all - Bottom line- air
forces are run by military people like some of the brothers on this
forum. More specifically they are run by officers and pilots like me.
So, everyone, no matter who Tarver thinks he is, rest assured that he
is NOT making policy decisions for the military - he is just another
contractor providing services for us. So Tarver, thanks for your
insight...but how about you stick to your sims and let the military
people do the flying. Sorry if you take offense to this, but I'm sure
that I'll hear about it anyway from my boss thru CINCNORAD about my
negative attitude on this forum, since from the way you talk you must
be pretty tight with military policy makers. Actually isn't it you who
makes defense policy?I didn't think so. Keep up the good work...
contractor. Hopefully I'll get to fly one of your sims soon. Unless
the companies find a better company to do their work, which will
probably happen sooner rather than later if you keep trying to do
everyone else's job but your own.

"monkey" wrote in message
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"Tarver Engineering" wrote in message

Allowed refutes the monkey sock's cluelessness too, Johnny.

I wouldn't speak for the US Military or the FAA if I were you Tarver.

Why is that?

Anyway, before monkey sock so rudely interupted, I was discussing the 20#
stick breakout for the F/A-18. Something anyone who ever flew the airplane
would know as part of their training. I suspect "an additional 33#" of
stick force added to the regular pull of the SU 27 directly into one's
crotch would be less than fun. I'd go with flicking the switch.

snip of monkey offering additional proof that he is no pilot

"Tarver Engineering" wrote in message
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"monkey" wrote in message
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"Tarver Engineering" wrote in message

Allowed refutes the monkey sock's cluelessness too, Johnny.

I wouldn't speak for the US Military or the FAA if I were you Tarver.

Why is that?

Anyway, before monkey sock so rudely interupted, I was discussing the 20#
stick breakout for the F/A-18. Something anyone who ever flew the
airplane
would know as part of their training. I suspect "an additional 33#" of
stick force added to the regular pull of the SU 27 directly into one's
crotch would be less than fun. I'd go with flicking the switch.

Fair point. Don't you think in combat, the pull-through might be more actual
use?

John

"John Mullen" wrote in message
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"Tarver Engineering" wrote in message
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"monkey" wrote in message
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"Tarver Engineering" wrote in message

Allowed refutes the monkey sock's cluelessness too, Johnny.

I wouldn't speak for the US Military or the FAA if I were you Tarver.

Why is that?

Anyway, before monkey sock so rudely interupted, I was discussing the
20#
stick breakout for the F/A-18. Something anyone who ever flew the
airplane
would know as part of their training. I suspect "an additional 33#" of
stick force added to the regular pull of the SU 27 directly into one's
crotch would be less than fun. I'd go with flicking the switch.

Fair point. Don't you think in combat, the pull-through might be more
actual
use?

I don't believe the cobra is a viable combat manouver, but I suppose the use
of the pull through might be useful where the operator is scared ****less.
I expect that during a dog fight where your competetor is colsing for a shot
fear would be part of the equation.

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"monkey" wrote in message
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"Tarver Engineering" wrote in message

Allowed refutes the monkey sock's cluelessness too, Johnny.

I wouldn't speak for the US Military or the FAA if I were you Tarver.

Why is that?

Anyway, before monkey sock so rudely interupted, I was discussing the 20#
stick breakout for the F/A-18. Something anyone who ever flew the airplane
would know as part of their training. I suspect "an additional 33#" of
stick force added to the regular pull of the SU 27 directly into one's
crotch would be less than fun. I'd go with flicking the switch.

snip of monkey offering additional proof that he is no pilot
if you are talking about pulling harder to override aoa/g limits, the
canadian cf-18 does not have that feature.