Air America breaking news: "USA to fingerprint ALL visitors !!!"

On Sat, 03 Apr 2004 13:57:38 GMT, Chad Irby wrote:

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"nobody760" wrote:

So the message is visiting the USA is more trouble than its worth so I'll go
some place else.

Yeah, that two minute fingerprinting and photo is *sooo* hard after a
six-hour plane flight...

...and even with that, it's still going to be faster than most customs
checks in 99% of the countries in the world.

You don't get out very much do you?
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In article ,
AJC wrote:

On Sat, 03 Apr 2004 13:57:38 GMT, Chad Irby wrote:

...and even with that, it's still going to be faster than most customs
checks in 99% of the countries in the world.

You don't get out very much do you?

I'm sure *you* don't, if you think US Customs and Immigration is bad,
compared to most places. Try any of the African nations, for example.
Or Russia.

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Chad Irby wrote:

In article ,
AJC wrote:


On Sat, 03 Apr 2004 13:57:38 GMT, Chad Irby wrote:


...and even with that, it's still going to be faster than most customs
checks in 99% of the countries in the world.

You don't get out very much do you?


I'm sure *you* don't, if you think US Customs and Immigration is bad,
compared to most places. Try any of the African nations, for example.
Or Russia.

I have never had my finger print or photo taken at Immigration in
Russia, have you??? I am not saying there is no reason for the US to do
it, only that I haven't seen it done in Russia.

In . com mtravelkay
wrote:
Chad Irby wrote:
In article ,
AJC wrote:
On Sat, 03 Apr 2004 13:57:38 GMT, Chad Irby wrote:

...and even with that, it's still going to be faster than most customs
checks in 99% of the countries in the world.

You don't get out very much do you?

I'm sure *you* don't, if you think US Customs and Immigration is bad,
compared to most places. Try any of the African nations, for example.
Or Russia.

I have never had my finger print or photo taken at Immigration in
Russia, have you??? I am not saying there is no reason for the US to do
it, only that I haven't seen it done in Russia.

Old habits die hard; they leave the photograph up to the desk clerk at
your hotel, and get your fingerprints off the glass in your bathroom.

:-)

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Bert Hyman St. Paul, MN

mtravelkay wrote:


I have never had my finger print or photo taken at Immigration in
Russia, have you??? I am not saying there is no reason for the US to
do it, only that I haven't seen it done in Russia.


No fingerprints for Russia, but a passport photo with visa application.
EVERYBODY requires a visa application.

The border process was two guys looking at you, then your passport
photo, then you again, and then a subtle nod to each other that each
sees the guy in the photo standing in front of them.

gld

Gary

No fingerprints for Russia, but a passport photo with visa application.
EVERYBODY requires a visa application.

Not precisely true. Several ex-USSR states are visa free and the
Belarus-Russia border is as non-existent (in terms of immigration control)
as those within Schengen.

Eryk


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In article ,
AJC wrote:

On Sat, 03 Apr 2004 13:57:38 GMT, Chad Irby wrote:

...and even with that, it's still going to be faster than most customs
checks in 99% of the countries in the world.

You don't get out very much do you?

I'm sure *you* don't, if you think US Customs and Immigration is bad,
compared to most places. Try any of the African nations, for example.
Or Russia.


You claimed that US customs ( I believe you mean immigration) is faster than
"99% of the countries in the world". I have been to 75 countries and the US
is amongst the 10 countries with the longest/slowest lines for immigration
and customs. Yes, Russia is bad too and so are some of the African nations
(although Egypt and Ethiopia were incredibly quick when I visited last
year), but the US is almost always slow.

Sjoerd

In article ,
"Sjoerd" wrote:

You claimed that US customs ( I believe you mean immigration) is faster than
"99% of the countries in the world". I have been to 75 countries and the US
is amongst the 10 countries with the longest/slowest lines for immigration
and customs.

Is this because the process for each person is long, or because of the
relative number of people coming in at a time?

When you're flying in on a hundred-seat airliner and there's four guys
working the desk, you're going to get through faster than if you're on
one of four 747-400s landing in the same hour...

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Chad Irby wrote:
In article ,
"Sjoerd" wrote:


You claimed that US customs ( I believe you mean immigration) is faster than
"99% of the countries in the world". I have been to 75 countries and the US
is amongst the 10 countries with the longest/slowest lines for immigration
and customs.


Is this because the process for each person is long, or because of the
relative number of people coming in at a time?

The number of people coming and the number of people working for
Immigration. But, if we double the time it takes to process each person
by requiring the photo and fingerprints, can you imagine the results,
unless we hire twice as many Immigration people? What actually occurs
with the photo and fingerprints? I doubt Immigration waits for a
fingerprint or image search for know "evil-doers".

In article ,
mtravelkay wrote:

Chad Irby wrote:

Is this because the process for each person is long, or because of the
relative number of people coming in at a time?

The number of people coming and the number of people working for
Immigration. But, if we double the time it takes to process each person
by requiring the photo and fingerprints, can you imagine the results,
unless we hire twice as many Immigration people?

And what makes you think taking someone's photo and having them put
their hands on an optical scanner will double the time? If it takes
more than a few seconds, someone's screwing up.

What actually occurs
with the photo and fingerprints? I doubt Immigration waits for a
fingerprint or image search for know "evil-doers".

It sure will help if we're looking for one or another person who came in
on a particular flight, without letting them know we're looking
specifically for them...

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