X-43A successful flight

"Doug "Woody" and Erin Beal" wrote in message
...
On 4/6/04 8:11 PM, in article , "Tarver
Engineering" wrote:


There is no difference in stick forces or "break out" as you're calling it
between CAS, DEL, or MECH modes. Perhaps you're talking about the
feedback
force that is added when the stick is displaced from its neutral position?
That is certainly not a "break out."

The stick doesn't move for electric modes.

How many F-18 hours a year in the air are you and monkey getting Woody?
50?
20?


Per year? Absolutely ZERO in MECH, more than 150 or so in CAS, less than
1
in DEL (spin recovery mode).

Look, Tarver, I've accumulated enough hours in the Hornet to have more
than
a clue about its systems and how to employ them than you do.

I did not comment on your ability to operate the F-18 wood man. You
insutled me in assuming that because you do not know something that I could
not know it. I can assure you that I know more about the
electric/electronic systems in the F-18 than you ever possibly could. I
have the advantage over you, in having brought dead F-18s back to life and
having integrated F-18 aircraft hardware and software to a computer. When I
wrote simulator, it is not the kind you think of, but something to do
controls research on.

You see, once long ago some in NASA and USN were certain that GE was lying
about their F-18 flight control computer. Much anger was exchanged between
NASA Lewis and GE and Congress was ready to get involved. Using Gould's
software we were able to input GE's numbers and match the airplane at
Dryden. Martha Evans and a delegation went back to NASA Lewis where before
a couple of Congress critters Lewis demanded that Dryden adjust their
simulation results to match Lewis, Martha just laid the airplane strip chart
over our simulation results and showed they matched.

Next thing you know Congress is having a comittee meeting and Bob Myers is
going with Martha to testify. It was all quite a big deal and Dryden was
able to become a flight test center again on the achievement. I remember
Bob comming to my office every morning to see if I was still showing up, as
Martha was hanging on by a thread in those days.

On 4/7/04 12:05 PM, in article , "Tarver
Engineering" wrote:

SNIP

I did not comment on your ability to operate the F-18 wood man. You
insutled me in assuming that because you do not know something that I could
not know it.

What we have here is... Failure to communicate. I never made that
assumption... At least not publically.

I can assure you that I know more about the
electric/electronic systems in the F-18 than you ever possibly could. I
have the advantage over you, in having brought dead F-18s back to life and
having integrated F-18 aircraft hardware and software to a computer. When I
wrote simulator, it is not the kind you think of, but something to do
controls research on.


I understand more than you might think.

You see, once long ago some in NASA and USN were certain that GE was lying
about their F-18 flight control computer. Much anger was exchanged between
NASA Lewis and GE and Congress was ready to get involved. Using Gould's
software we were able to input GE's numbers and match the airplane at
Dryden. Martha Evans and a delegation went back to NASA Lewis where before
a couple of Congress critters Lewis demanded that Dryden adjust their
simulation results to match Lewis, Martha just laid the airplane strip chart
over our simulation results and showed they matched.


Are you talking about that hangar in Cleveland?

Next thing you know Congress is having a comittee meeting and Bob Myers is
going with Martha to testify. It was all quite a big deal and Dryden was
able to become a flight test center again on the achievement. I remember
Bob comming to my office every morning to see if I was still showing up, as
Martha was hanging on by a thread in those days.


Who are Bob and Martha? Just trying to get educated now.

--Woody

"Doug "Woody" and Erin Beal" wrote in message
...
On 4/7/04 12:05 PM, in article , "Tarver
Engineering" wrote:

SNIP

I did not comment on your ability to operate the F-18 wood man. You
insutled me in assuming that because you do not know something that I
could
not know it.

What we have here is... Failure to communicate. I never made that
assumption... At least not publically.

Sure you did. It is very insulting for you to ask me to admit I am wrong
when i am correct and you just don't know. You come off as a prick, instead
of that big dick F-18 thing, same for little blo monkey.

On 4/7/04 11:30 PM, in article , "Tarver
Engineering" wrote:


"Doug "Woody" and Erin Beal" wrote in message
...
On 4/7/04 12:05 PM, in article , "Tarver
Engineering" wrote:

SNIP

I did not comment on your ability to operate the F-18 wood man. You
insutled me in assuming that because you do not know something that I
could
not know it.

What we have here is... Failure to communicate. I never made that
assumption... At least not publically.

Sure you did. It is very insulting for you to ask me to admit I am wrong
when i am correct and you just don't know. You come off as a prick, instead
of that big dick F-18 thing, same for little blo monkey.


Okay, I've asked you several questions trying to get answers... About rotary
inverters, about Bob and Mary etc... You seem to refuse to answer or to
educate, but instead break down to insults.

Meanwhile several others on the NG have asked me to stop because they're
tired of reading this tripe (probably getting nearly as bad as those "KILL
THE DEMON BUSH..." posts).

Since you've degraded into throwing around personal insults, I'm going to
oblige them.

The only good thing I got out of this discussion is a chance to learn from
Mary Shafer. Good day, sir.

--Woody

"Doug "Woody" and Erin Beal" wrote in message
...
On 4/7/04 11:30 PM, in article , "Tarver
Engineering" wrote:


"Doug "Woody" and Erin Beal" wrote in message
...
On 4/7/04 12:05 PM, in article , "Tarver
Engineering" wrote:

SNIP

I did not comment on your ability to operate the F-18 wood man. You
insutled me in assuming that because you do not know something that I
could
not know it.

What we have here is... Failure to communicate. I never made that
assumption... At least not publically.

Sure you did. It is very insulting for you to ask me to admit I am
wrong
when i am correct and you just don't know. You come off as a prick,
instead
of that big dick F-18 thing, same for little blo monkey.


Okay, I've asked you several questions trying to get answers... About
rotary
inverters, about Bob and Mary etc... You seem to refuse to answer or to
educate, but instead break down to insults.

I am sorry that once found clueless, being a prick didn't carry the day for
you, wood man. Perhaps in our next encounter you might act in a civilized
manner and I may answer your questions. It is you and little blo monkey
that are being insulting and that is odd considering the laughable condition
of the Canadain military.

From: "Doug \"Woody\" and Erin Beal"
Date: 4/8/2004 5:56 AM Central Daylight Time
Message-id:

On 4/7/04 11:30 PM, in article , "Tarver
Engineering" wrote:


"Doug "Woody" and Erin Beal" wrote in message
...
On 4/7/04 12:05 PM, in article , "Tarver
Engineering" wrote:

SNIP

I did not comment on your ability to operate the F-18 wood man. You
insutled me in assuming that because you do not know something that I
could
not know it.

What we have here is... Failure to communicate. I never made that
assumption... At least not publically.

Sure you did. It is very insulting for you to ask me to admit I am wrong
when i am correct and you just don't know. You come off as a prick,
instead
of that big dick F-18 thing, same for little blo monkey.


Okay, I've asked you several questions trying to get answers... About rotary
inverters, about Bob and Mary etc... You seem to refuse to answer or to
educate, but instead break down to insults.

Meanwhile several others on the NG have asked me to stop because they're
tired of reading this tripe (probably getting nearly as bad as those "KILL
THE DEMON BUSH..." posts).

Since you've degraded into throwing around personal insults, I'm going to
oblige them.

The only good thing I got out of this discussion is a chance to learn from
Mary Shafer. Good day, sir.

--Woody

Woody, you will never get answers from tarver. He genuinely feels anyone who
disagrees with him is personally insulting or attacking him. He uses this to
justify vulgar, crude and rude personal attacks. He really does believe
subsituting vitriol for independently verifiable proof of his claims is a
proper form of debate. A google search of his behaviour in this and several
other forums will prove this.

As for the rotary inverter I seriously doubt it exists in the F/A-18 since
solid state inverters are more reliable.

Dan, U.S. Air Force, retired

"Doug \"Woody\" and Erin Beal" wrote in message ...
On 4/6/04 8:11 PM, in article , "Tarver
Engineering" wrote:


"Mike Kanze" wrote in message
...
Let us agree that I know where the F/A-18 stick breaks out at (20#) and
that you and monkey are clueless.


Well, THAT was an insult. Nice work.

Once again, the Tarverbot shows his OWN cluelessness.

Not me. It is unsafe for the operator to not know that the stick breaks out
to activate the mechanical backup. There is no guarantee the failure of the
electric controls will cause the force transducer to deactivate. Once agian
a pilot is so ignorant as to believe they know more about how an airplane
works than a systems engineer for that airplane.


This is NOT a safety of flight issue, and you couldn't possibly be a systems
engineer for the Hornet.

Tarver's engineering capabilities are predominantly associated with
repairs of the domestic toaster.

From: "Tarver Engineering"


How many F-18 hours a year in the air are you and monkey getting Woody? 50?
20?

That would be 20 to 50 hours more than you ever will have.

Dan, U.S. Air Force, retired

"B2431" wrote in message
...
From: "Tarver Engineering"


How many F-18 hours a year in the air are you and monkey getting Woody?
50?
20?

That would be 20 to 50 hours more than you ever will have.

Too late old fool, Wood man already spun into the ground.

On 4/7/04 7:35 PM, in article , "Tarver
Engineering" wrote:


"B2431" wrote in message
...
From: "Tarver Engineering"


How many F-18 hours a year in the air are you and monkey getting Woody?
50?
20?

That would be 20 to 50 hours more than you ever will have.

Too late old fool, Wood man already spun into the ground.

?

--Woody