Why no Cannons on Police Helicopters?

From: "Jim Doyle"



"B2431" wrote in message
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From: Kerryn Offord

Dweezil Dwarftosser wrote:

Jim Doyle wrote:

"Jim Yanik" wrote:
SNIP


Again, I think this boils down largely to a difference between our two
countries. Although the UK has crime, just as any other country, I have
never heard in all my years of such an incident as you describe above.
Although sadly, there's always a possibility that this may happen, we do not
live in fear of such horrors. If you do in America, then I completely
understand your motives for owning a weapon for home defence. But do you
really live in fear of this?

In some parts of the country home invasions are very real threats.

Can I ask of the circumstances you found yourself in when you drew your
weapon?

An individual pulled a knife on me. I drew my weapon, he backed down. Argument
was over.



You can't shoot to maim or wound because he can sue and probably win. You
really can't wait until his intentions are clear. If you can get him to
stop
his attack without shooting do so, if not shoot.

In Florida the magic number is 21 feet. If the badguy has started his
attack
and you shoot him dead he is likely to complete his actions up to 21 feet.
You
may have a house with 21 foot rooms, most of us don't. The decision to
shoot
has to be made in an instant.

In case you are wondering it breaks my heart when accidents happen such as
shooting one's own family member. Personally I want every citizen taught
basic
firearms safety even if they are opposed to owning guns. They can use fake
guns. At the very least every child should be taught what to do if they
find a
firearm. The NRA's Eddie Eagle program does just that.

That's interesting and refreshing to see, genuinely. I have taken the
impression from the majority of post over the past couple of days that there
is a general blasé attitude toward firearms and killing in the US. I have
very limited knowledge of the NRA, but from what I can see they seem to
promote firearm awareness and safety - which can't be bad in anyone's book.
Are all firearms owners in the US members of the NRA?

Jim Doyle

It would be nice if all gun owners where NRA members, but it's not the case.

Dan, U.S. Air Force, retired

(B2431) wrote in
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From: "Jim Doyle"



"B2431" wrote in message
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From: Kerryn Offord

Dweezil Dwarftosser wrote:

Jim Doyle wrote:

"Jim Yanik" wrote:
SNIP


Again, I think this boils down largely to a difference between our two
countries. Although the UK has crime, just as any other country, I
have never heard in all my years of such an incident as you describe
above. Although sadly, there's always a possibility that this may
happen, we do not live in fear of such horrors. If you do in America,
then I completely understand your motives for owning a weapon for home
defence. But do you really live in fear of this?

In some parts of the country home invasions are very real threats.

Can I ask of the circumstances you found yourself in when you drew
your weapon?

An individual pulled a knife on me. I drew my weapon, he backed down.
Argument was over.



You can't shoot to maim or wound because he can sue and probably
win. You really can't wait until his intentions are clear. If you
can get him to
stop
his attack without shooting do so, if not shoot.

In Florida the magic number is 21 feet. If the badguy has started
his
attack
and you shoot him dead he is likely to complete his actions up to 21
feet.
You
may have a house with 21 foot rooms, most of us don't. The decision
to
shoot
has to be made in an instant.

In case you are wondering it breaks my heart when accidents happen
such as shooting one's own family member. Personally I want every
citizen taught
basic
firearms safety even if they are opposed to owning guns. They can
use fake guns. At the very least every child should be taught what
to do if they
find a
firearm. The NRA's Eddie Eagle program does just that.

That's interesting and refreshing to see, genuinely. I have taken the
impression from the majority of post over the past couple of days that
there is a general blasé attitude toward firearms and killing in the
US. I have very limited knowledge of the NRA, but from what I can see
they seem to promote firearm awareness and safety - which can't be bad
in anyone's book. Are all firearms owners in the US members of the
NRA?

Jim Doyle

It would be nice if all gun owners where NRA members, but it's not the
case.

Dan, U.S. Air Force, retired


About 4 million NRA members,about 70 million gun owners.
If Mr.Doyle is curious about the NRA,I suggest visit the NRA website and do
some reading.I hope he hassn't formed his opinion strictly from the media
output!

www.nra.org,and www.nra-ila.org.

--
Jim Yanik
jyanik-at-kua.net

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From: "Jim Doyle"



"B2431" wrote in message
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From: Kerryn Offord

Dweezil Dwarftosser wrote:

Jim Doyle wrote:

"Jim Yanik" wrote:
SNIP


Again, I think this boils down largely to a difference between our two
countries. Although the UK has crime, just as any other country, I
have never heard in all my years of such an incident as you describe
above. Although sadly, there's always a possibility that this may
happen, we do not live in fear of such horrors. If you do in America,
then I completely understand your motives for owning a weapon for home
defence. But do you really live in fear of this?

In some parts of the country home invasions are very real threats.

Can I ask of the circumstances you found yourself in when you drew
your weapon?

An individual pulled a knife on me. I drew my weapon, he backed down.
Argument was over.



You can't shoot to maim or wound because he can sue and probably
win. You really can't wait until his intentions are clear. If you
can get him to
stop
his attack without shooting do so, if not shoot.

In Florida the magic number is 21 feet. If the badguy has started
his
attack
and you shoot him dead he is likely to complete his actions up to 21
feet.
You
may have a house with 21 foot rooms, most of us don't. The decision
to
shoot
has to be made in an instant.

In case you are wondering it breaks my heart when accidents happen
such as shooting one's own family member. Personally I want every
citizen taught
basic
firearms safety even if they are opposed to owning guns. They can
use fake guns. At the very least every child should be taught what
to do if they
find a
firearm. The NRA's Eddie Eagle program does just that.

That's interesting and refreshing to see, genuinely. I have taken the
impression from the majority of post over the past couple of days that
there is a general blasé attitude toward firearms and killing in the
US. I have very limited knowledge of the NRA, but from what I can see
they seem to promote firearm awareness and safety - which can't be bad
in anyone's book. Are all firearms owners in the US members of the
NRA?

Jim Doyle

It would be nice if all gun owners where NRA members, but it's not the
case.

Dan, U.S. Air Force, retired


About 4 million NRA members,about 70 million gun owners.
If Mr.Doyle is curious about the NRA,I suggest visit the NRA website and
do
some reading.I hope he hassn't formed his opinion strictly from the media
output!

www.nra.org,and www.nra-ila.org.


I've not been Mr Doyle in a while.

I have read, and I'm impressed to an extent. I'll admit to having a somewhat
dubious impression of the NRA previously, and yes, 99% of that was US media
led. It would seem the US needs an institution such as the NRA to balance
the situation - of my misgivings concerning guns, the NRA at least teaches
gun awareness and safety. They're not the trigger happy bunch I had been led
to believe.

Yet 4 from 70 is not really as comprehensive as it should be. Considering
that those 4 million members are likely the more conscientious of all US gun
owners.

--
Jim Yanik
jyanik-at-kua.net

"Jim Doyle" wrote in
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"Jim Yanik" wrote in message
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From: "Jim Doyle"



"B2431" wrote in message
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From: Kerryn Offord

Dweezil Dwarftosser wrote:

Jim Doyle wrote:

"Jim Yanik" wrote:
SNIP


Again, I think this boils down largely to a difference between our
two countries. Although the UK has crime, just as any other
country, I have never heard in all my years of such an incident as
you describe above. Although sadly, there's always a possibility
that this may happen, we do not live in fear of such horrors. If
you do in America, then I completely understand your motives for
owning a weapon for home defence. But do you really live in fear of
this?

In some parts of the country home invasions are very real threats.

Can I ask of the circumstances you found yourself in when you drew
your weapon?

An individual pulled a knife on me. I drew my weapon, he backed
down. Argument was over.



You can't shoot to maim or wound because he can sue and probably
win. You really can't wait until his intentions are clear. If you
can get him to
stop
his attack without shooting do so, if not shoot.

In Florida the magic number is 21 feet. If the badguy has started
his
attack
and you shoot him dead he is likely to complete his actions up to
21 feet.
You
may have a house with 21 foot rooms, most of us don't. The
decision to
shoot
has to be made in an instant.

In case you are wondering it breaks my heart when accidents
happen such as shooting one's own family member. Personally I
want every citizen taught
basic
firearms safety even if they are opposed to owning guns. They can
use fake guns. At the very least every child should be taught
what to do if they
find a
firearm. The NRA's Eddie Eagle program does just that.

That's interesting and refreshing to see, genuinely. I have taken
the impression from the majority of post over the past couple of
days that there is a general blasé attitude toward firearms and
killing in the US. I have very limited knowledge of the NRA, but
from what I can see they seem to promote firearm awareness and
safety - which can't be bad in anyone's book. Are all firearms
owners in the US members of the NRA?

Jim Doyle

It would be nice if all gun owners where NRA members, but it's not
the case.

Dan, U.S. Air Force, retired


About 4 million NRA members,about 70 million gun owners.
If Mr.Doyle is curious about the NRA,I suggest visit the NRA website
and
do
some reading.I hope he hassn't formed his opinion strictly from the
media output!

www.nra.org,and www.nra-ila.org.


I've not been Mr Doyle in a while.

I have read, and I'm impressed to an extent. I'll admit to having a
somewhat dubious impression of the NRA previously, and yes, 99% of
that was US media led. It would seem the US needs an institution such
as the NRA to balance the situation - of my misgivings concerning
guns, the NRA at least teaches gun awareness and safety. They're not
the trigger happy bunch I had been led to believe.

Yet 4 from 70 is not really as comprehensive as it should be.
Considering that those 4 million members are likely the more
conscientious of all US gun owners.

--
Jim Yanik
jyanik-at-kua.net




Well,unfortuantely,many hunters and sport shooters feel that NRA membership
is unnecessary,that -their- hunting or sport shooting will be left alone by
the gun banners,or unaffected by gun control,they're blind to reality.
Some members left because the NRA has not done enough to fight gun
control,that they make too many concessions,while the other side makes
none,keeps coming back for more gun control.

One need not get their firearm safety training from the NRA,either.

--
Jim Yanik
jyanik-at-kua.net