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Are the Israelis using smaller Hellfire warheads?



 
 
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Old April 21st 04, 11:50 PM
Kevin Brooks
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"Arie Kazachin" wrote in message
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Well,Hellfire uses a shaped charge warhead,so it makes a "jet' of
penetrating metal,tearing through the car's interior and the blast may
occur outside the car,and it would not affect the hubcaps/wheelcovers.


Think about what you just said. The fact that the standard Hellfire uses

a
HEAT warhead does not really greatly affect the blast effect; it only

means
that a portion of the blast has been used (as it expands outward) to

invert
the liner and turn it into a stream of really hot metal and gas focused

on a
small area. The explosive still exhibits a generally spherical blast

pattern
overall. Set a fifteen pound demo shaped charge against the average
passenger vehicle and you'll see that it does not *need* the shaped

charge
effect to do a pretty good number on the target; that much HE going off

in
close contact to the car will tend to ruin everyone's day if they were
unfortunate enough to be inside it.

Brooks


There was at least one case when a terrorists leader remained alive
because he was sitting in a front seat while the missile hit the
back seat. So it seems the blast effect is far from spherical.


I'd think it more likely that he was rather lucky, or had the benefit of
some armor protection, or a combination of both. Then again, did the missile
actually strike the vehicle, or was it a near miss? Eight or ten pounds of
Comp B (or whatever they are using as a filler) going off in intimate
contact with the side of the average POV is going to be an experience that
only the lucky occupants survive.

Brooks

Or maybe
he just got extreamly lucky. For some reason, people like Hitler or Arafat
tend to by lucky enough to be saved from a bomb by a heavy table or to

walk
away from a plane crash...

Those damn ROE: not only the pilots have to hit a specific car at specific
moment, they also need to hit it at specific point...



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Old April 22nd 04, 10:05 PM
Arie Kazachin
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In message - "Kevin Brooks"
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[snip]

There was at least one case when a terrorists leader remained alive
because he was sitting in a front seat while the missile hit the
back seat. So it seems the blast effect is far from spherical.


I'd think it more likely that he was rather lucky, or had the benefit of
some armor protection, or a combination of both. Then again, did the missile
actually strike the vehicle, or was it a near miss? Eight or ten pounds of
Comp B (or whatever they are using as a filler) going off in intimate
contact with the side of the average POV is going to be an experience that
only the lucky occupants survive.

Brooks


Yes, the missile DID hit the car, only the wrong seats row.

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