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Again, for survival after escaping from an unflyable aircraft? The idea
is "not to die of exposure, hunger or angry wildlife", not "stand off all of 3 Shock Army singlehandedly". Every ounce of grenades, heavy-calibre ammunition, et cetera you carry is an ounce less of food, water, radio beacon, spare batteries, flares, dye markers and other items that might actually improve your chances of living until rescue. Respectfully, doesn't that depend on what you are most likely to need to do in order to survive? WILDERNESS survival in peacetime is different from survival behind enemy lines in time of war. A lone downed airman -or lone downed crew for that matter- isn't in a position to get into fire fights: there's just no way they can have brought enough fire power with them. Not getting captured means stealth and recovery. Survival means not ****ing off the more heavily armed people around you, water, shelter in bad weather and food. In that order. A good knife can be used stealthily in making shelter, some places getting water and food. Perhaps a gun with subsonic ammo would be sufficiently comforting and useful for small game in a long term situation to be worth while. History has not borne out the need for firearms in a survival situation following am aircraft downing so far as I am aware. Roger Locher survived on the ground for 21 days in North Vietnam without using his sidearm and another fellow survived in the Sierras for nearly three months after ejecting into a snowbank in late winter, finding a cabin, then walking out after being given up for dead. IN an area where there is lots of wilderness your main needs are wate, signalling, and shelter for a long term situation, not protection from critters.. |
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"John Keeney" wrote in message ...
"Fred the Red Shirt" wrote in message om... "Paul J. Adam" wrote in message ... Again, for survival after escaping from an unflyable aircraft? The idea is "not to die of exposure, hunger or angry wildlife", not "stand off all of 3 Shock Army singlehandedly". Every ounce of grenades, heavy-calibre ammunition, et cetera you carry is an ounce less of food, water, radio beacon, spare batteries, flares, dye markers and other items that might actually improve your chances of living until rescue. Respectfully, doesn't that depend on what you are most likely to need to do in order to survive? WILDERNESS survival in peacetime is different from survival behind enemy lines in time of war. A lone downed airman -or lone downed crew for that matter- isn't in a position to get into fire fights: there's just no way they can have brought enough fire power with them. Not getting captured means stealth and recovery. Survival means not ****ing off the more heavily armed people around you, water, shelter in bad weather and food. In that order. A good knife can be used stealthily in making shelter, some places getting water and food. Perhaps a gun with subsonic ammo would be sufficiently comforting and useful for small game in a long term situation to be worth while. Which has some clear implications IRT guns. It would seem that shooting game for food would be a bad idea as gunshots can attract unwanted attention. OTOH, shooting a lone person who has spotted you and is running to report your presence to the military is probably worth the risk. I would think that gathering plants and insects for food would be highly prefereable to hunting game with a firearm. The probability of success is higher and for the most part you can eat as you gather, no need to gut, skin, dress or cook a grub or cattail root. In wartime, if you include a gun in the survival kit it seems it ought to be the sort useful for shooting humans because it would be inadvisable to shoot anything else. When I was in High School we had a visit from a US Army Helicopter pilot who had been shot down twice in Vietnam. He said that both times when he was rescued he was running pretty hard to keep ahead of the VC. Obviously he wasn't going to take time to hunt for food, but a good rifle might have helped to keep the VC at a distance. In the wilderness, defending oneself against wild animals is pretty much a non-issue unless you go out of your way to harrass a moose or something. OTOH, in peacetime you will most likely be staying near the crash site waiting for rescue so hunting is more practical. -- FF |
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