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Stephen Harding wrote in news:408d9b76@news-
1.oit.umass.edu: Of course the WTC cost $billions and after the fact, even a modest application of better security would have more than paid for itself. Just some decent border security would have helped. IIRC,some of those 9-11 guys had overstayed their visas. -- Jim Yanik jyanik-at-kua.net |
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Jim Yanik wrote:
Stephen Harding wrote in news:408d9b76@news- 1.oit.umass.edu: Of course the WTC cost $billions and after the fact, even a modest application of better security would have more than paid for itself. Just some decent border security would have helped. IIRC,some of those 9-11 guys had overstayed their visas. Overstayed?, I guess so...wasn't it Atta who was sent a renewal request for some visa related papers several weeks after 911? (or was someone jerking chains?). I for one think it's a God damned shame that we need to change from the innocent life that we led a few years ago to one filled with suspicion, security checks, wandings, shoe inspections and similar personal intrusions just to pay for some religious zealots beliefs. I certainly have nothing against what some people want to believe UNTIL IT IMPACTS ME and MINE. You don't like freedom?...then stay out of free countries. Certainly don't cry when you get your fingers slapped for forcing your views on others thousands of miles away. -- -Gord. |
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"Gord Beaman" ) wrote in
: Jim Yanik wrote: Stephen Harding wrote in news:408d9b76@news- 1.oit.umass.edu: Of course the WTC cost $billions and after the fact, even a modest application of better security would have more than paid for itself. Just some decent border security would have helped. IIRC,some of those 9-11 guys had overstayed their visas. Overstayed?, I guess so...wasn't it Atta who was sent a renewal request for some visa related papers several weeks after 911? (or was someone jerking chains?). I for one think it's a God damned shame that we need to change from the innocent life that we led a few years ago to one filled with suspicion, security checks, wandings, shoe inspections and similar personal intrusions just to pay for some religious zealots beliefs. I certainly have nothing against what some people want to believe UNTIL IT IMPACTS ME and MINE. You don't like freedom?...then stay out of free countries. Certainly don't cry when you get your fingers slapped for forcing your views on others thousands of miles away. -- -Gord. Well,we now know that 9-11 was not the first attack on the US,there was the first WTC bombing,two US embassies bombed,the Khobar Towers bombing,and the USS Cole bombing. Albert Einstein once wrote that "the world is a dangerous place to live, not because of the people who are evil, but because of the people who don't do anything about it." I guess we know where you stand. -- Jim Yanik jyanik-at-kua.net |
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Jim Yanik wrote:
Albert Einstein once wrote that "the world is a dangerous place to live, not because of the people who are evil, but because of the people who don't do anything about it." I guess we know where you stand. ....aaaand I agree with him, lessee now, if I read you right you're ****ed that I'm not over there with rifle in hand right now, right?...well, here's my excuse, I'm 70 years old, half blind with glaucoma, on oxygen from emphysema, half deaf with aircraft engine noise...now then...let's turn our attention to you for a moment... -- -Gord. |
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"Gord Beaman" ) wrote in
: Jim Yanik wrote: Albert Einstein once wrote that "the world is a dangerous place to live, not because of the people who are evil, but because of the people who don't do anything about it." I guess we know where you stand. ...aaaand I agree with him, lessee now, if I read you right you're ****ed that I'm not over there with rifle in hand right now, right? As usual,you're off the mark. I'm 51.5 yrs old. (3.5 yrs in the USAF back in early 1970's.RIF for the last .5 yr.) -- Jim Yanik jyanik-at-kua.net |
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Jim Yanik wrote:
"Gord Beaman" wrote: Jim Yanik wrote: Albert Einstein once wrote that "the world is a dangerous place to live, not because of the people who are evil, but because of the people who don't do anything about it." I guess we know where you stand. ...aaaand I agree with him, lessee now, if I read you right you're ****ed that I'm not over there with rifle in hand right now, right? As usual,you're off the mark. Oh...I see...well your one-liner could certainly be taken as an accusation, but if it wasn't meant as one then it's likely that a better response would have been "No, you misunderstood me, sorry" rather than the accusation that you made. I'm 51.5 yrs old. (3.5 yrs in the USAF back in early 1970's.RIF for the last .5 yr.) I forgot to mention that I served in Canada's Armed Forces for 26 years. -- -Gord. |
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From: "Gord Beaman" )
I forgot to mention that I served in Canada's Armed Forces for 26 years. -- -Gord. Gord, you should have joined our Air Force. I spent my last 14 years in Florida. Nothing like a warm flightline most of the year. Ok, so we get down to the 20s a few days a year, but we can't have it TOO easy. Y'see, it's a tad chilly way up there where you are. Dan, U.S. Air Force, retired |
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In message , Jim Yanik
writes "Gord Beaman" ) wrote in : I certainly have nothing against what some people want to believe UNTIL IT IMPACTS ME and MINE. You don't like freedom?...then stay out of free countries. Certainly don't cry when you get your fingers slapped for forcing your views on others thousands of miles away. Well,we now know that 9-11 was not the first attack on the US,there was the first WTC bombing,two US embassies bombed, You have embassies in your own country? Embassies are established overseas. the Khobar Towers bombing, The Khobar Towers were in Saudi Arabia. and the USS Cole bombing. The USS COLE was attacked in the Yemen. As a firearms enthusiast, Jim, you might be familiar with the phrase "going off half-cocked". -- When you have to kill a man, it costs nothing to be polite. W S Churchill Paul J. Adam MainBoxatjrwlynch[dot]demon{dot}co(.)uk |
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In message , B2431
writes From: "Paul J. Adam" As a firearms enthusiast, Jim, you might be familiar with the phrase "going off half-cocked". Paul, that term comes from having an accident while stuffing one's side arm into the front waist of one's pants. Sorry, Dan, but it dates back to the flintlock days: back when you'd half-cock your firelock so you could charge the pan, and a fumble-fingered soldier or one cursed with a badly-made weapon (remember, this was before mass production and interchangeable parts) could discharge his weapon at an inopportune moment. And whether you call the relevant garment pants, shorts or trousers, I was only sticking a loaded and ready firearm in there if there was a proper holster ready to receive it ![]() -- When you have to kill a man, it costs nothing to be polite. W S Churchill Paul J. Adam MainBoxatjrwlynch[dot]demon{dot}co(.)uk |
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