Bush is set to invade/overthrow Cuba next

no need for that... that demented old fool's regime is gonna fall all by
itself very soon now.....

which "old fool" regime did you exactly have in mind???.....

the socialist communist USA or communist Cuba?

please clarify for us...



JR wrote:

no need for that... that demented old fool's regime is gonna fall all by
itself very soon now.....

"Aerophotos" wrote in message
...
which "old fool" regime did you exactly have in mind???.....

the socialist communist USA or communist Cuba?

Hey, numbnuts, just how do you qulify the US as being either socialist or
communist, much less both? I believe you were better off when you were
trying to convince us that the CIA was flying black F-4's (undoubtedly
precursors of those black helicopters you are so worried about today) with
singleton crews in Vietnam--that too was stupid and ridiculous, but at least
you were dealing with things-that-really-exist, like the F-4 and the CIA.,
as opposed to this latest strange construct of a "socialist communist
USA"...


please clarify for us...

Why should he bother? You are obviously too much of an idiot to be able to
comprehend reality. And who is joining you in this "us"? You got a turd in
your pocket, or what?

Brooks




JR wrote:

no need for that... that demented old fool's regime is gonna fall all by
itself very soon now.....

Hmm last i checked there are over 6bn people on this planet...

290m -/+ americans ....wait wait - 4 more deaths in iraq from bush's
policies...

Say another 900m westerners maybe ....give or take WHO you think is a
western country nowdays....

So leaves alot of non westerners around 4.5bn maybe... who would be keen
to see what the answer is regarding cuba and georges plans for it.

Regarding your ability to not handle the truth on the CIA ops flying
single seat F-4 missions.. if you choose to not to believe that, well
then you have a mindset and refuse to .....

Sadly for you,it is the truth from a source who served there and saw the
stuff happen... unlike you who didnt serve there and saw nothing..

Now who would i believe ...you or the source who served there???? my
logic says the source ....over you...who DIDNT.

If you have trouble handling vietnam ops single seat flying... of any
such F4 setup.... explain how QF-4 drone operations with single pilot
work then too... they have no radar and INS in some cases or how rare F4
missions for flying between bases with single pilots were allowed?....

They were single pilot ops flying neverless a F-4 also...or do you think
differently?.....

I await with eagerness... your reply on the forum.

The truth is always surprising/hard to accept and handle to some people,
they who dont expect things to happen because they think they cant
happen... when in fact they do...








Kevin Brooks wrote:

"Aerophotos" wrote in message
...
which "old fool" regime did you exactly have in mind???.....

the socialist communist USA or communist Cuba?

Hey, numbnuts, just how do you qulify the US as being either socialist or
communist, much less both? I believe you were better off when you were
trying to convince us that the CIA was flying black F-4's (undoubtedly
precursors of those black helicopters you are so worried about today) with
singleton crews in Vietnam--that too was stupid and ridiculous, but at least
you were dealing with things-that-really-exist, like the F-4 and the CIA.,
as opposed to this latest strange construct of a "socialist communist
USA"...


please clarify for us...

Why should he bother? You are obviously too much of an idiot to be able to
comprehend reality. And who is joining you in this "us"? You got a turd in
your pocket, or what?

Brooks




JR wrote:

no need for that... that demented old fool's regime is gonna fall all by
itself very soon now.....

"Aerophotos" wrote in message
...
Hmm last i checked there are over 6bn people on this planet...

Count them yourself ? Or are you accepting the word of "someone who was
there"?

From: Aerophotos

snip

If you have trouble handling vietnam ops single seat flying... of any
such F4 setup.... explain how QF-4 drone operations with single pilot
work then too... they have no radar and INS in some cases

Does the word "target" mean anything to you? QFs are simply targets. They may
do some yanking and banking, but there is no pilot on board. You don't need a
GIB for that. The radar is left in for weight since to remove it will seriously
screw up C.G. by making it too tail heavy.


in some cases or how rare F4
missions for flying between bases with single pilots were allowed?..

That's a ferry mission, not a combat op.

Did it ever occur to you your "source" was pulling your leg? For that matter,
will you ever identify him to anyone who can confirm anything he says?

Dan, U.S. Air Force, retired

Regarding QF-4s... you stated before that no crews were involved in the
flying at all.... then care to explain all the pilot operational flights
and etc with a LIVE HUMAN OPERATOR then? ...or dont they count as people
anymore the pilots? They only a robot?

As we speak QF-4N at Pt Mugu have or soon are ending their operations
with crews on board, QF-4E/Gs and QRF-4C fly still out of Tyndal and
Holloman by the 82nd ATS sqn with LIVE crews.. so your talk of no crews
on board is wrong i think....


Other issue...

My source is classified sorry my groundie is not willing to go "live
" at this time...

He is willing to give me insights to his life of the old but i have
agreed to keep him underwraps from advere publicity , you know how cia
operations are at times.. shy for coverage...

So your telling me flying a F-4 with no radar over a ho trail is still
and was then impossible to do? eg cant do manuals drops or firing or
weapons?

INS and radar control cant be done by front seater...?

Another part i seems to recall is _maybe_ the source mentioning the
mission crew setup for the pilot was ... "wso controls set up prior
to departure" ... which would remove all the problem of dual crew use..

Now does that seem possible?

Mind you the source has all the personnel and operations effects of
thailand and vietnam operations...i can pull out info referring to
classified flight data for missions over SEA at a fingertip or review
mission criteria no problems. Weapon loads are even available to.

Ive seen them, reviewed them and discussed them with the source... there
is no doubting the info.. plain big bold usaf letterheads, crew names
etc etc etc

Maybe the flying operations this person is talking about that happened
30 odd year ago...its just that like flying thru hell gates.... is only
a experience that few will ever get to experience....

much like bombing Hanoi's Thanh Hoa bridge... not everyone who went
north, went into that hell hole of a target area.





B2431 wrote:

From: Aerophotos

snip

If you have trouble handling vietnam ops single seat flying... of any
such F4 setup.... explain how QF-4 drone operations with single pilot
work then too... they have no radar and INS in some cases

Does the word "target" mean anything to you? QFs are simply targets. They may
do some yanking and banking, but there is no pilot on board. You don't need a
GIB for that. The radar is left in for weight since to remove it will seriously
screw up C.G. by making it too tail heavy.

in some cases or how rare F4
missions for flying between bases with single pilots were allowed?..

That's a ferry mission, not a combat op.

Did it ever occur to you your "source" was pulling your leg? For that matter,
will you ever identify him to anyone who can confirm anything he says?

Dan, U.S. Air Force, retired

--

"Aerophotos" wrote in message
...
Regarding QF-4s... you stated before that no crews were involved in the
flying at all.... then care to explain all the pilot operational flights
and etc with a LIVE HUMAN OPERATOR then? ...or dont they count as people
anymore the pilots? They only a robot?

Strawman, and not a very good one at that. The QF-4 has nothing to do with
your alt-conspiracy-whacko ideas, JGG. The QF-4 was not flying during the
period of your purported black operations in Vietnam, either.



As we speak QF-4N at Pt Mugu have or soon are ending their operations
with crews on board, QF-4E/Gs and QRF-4C fly still out of Tyndal and
Holloman by the 82nd ATS sqn with LIVE crews.. so your talk of no crews
on board is wrong i think....


Other issue...

My source is classified sorry my groundie is not willing to go "live
" at this time...

BWAHAHA! "Classified", eh? Then just how in tarnation did you, a foreign
national, and one no dobt lacking a clearance, find out about this "scoop"?
Idiot.


He is willing to give me insights to his life of the old but i have
agreed to keep him underwraps from advere publicity , you know how cia
operations are at times.. shy for coverage...

Oh, for cryin' out loud...do you *really* believe this crap? And they let
you work on *ejection seats*? What are you, a test dummy?

Brooks

snip futher irrational/delusional ramblings

"Aerophotos" wrote in message
...
which "old fool" regime did you exactly have in mind???.....
the socialist communist USA or communist Cuba?
please clarify for us...

**** off jgg, and keep the "us" crap out of it.
Just hide in a closet, and get a hard on thinking about the USA.

Are you a US apoligist now Sunny? every post i see from you seems to
support that moral path...


Arent other countries allowed to live along side the US dominated world
without having to submit to US controls?

Are you really such a nasty person that you deny others their own
freedom beside pusshing a US policy so hard up there anal cavitity?.. eg
Cuba's population.

Why dont you go and die from Orange side effects now and claim the gold
card...

Sunny wrote:

"Aerophotos" wrote in message
...
which "old fool" regime did you exactly have in mind???.....
the socialist communist USA or communist Cuba?
please clarify for us...

**** off jgg, and keep the "us" crap out of it.
Just hide in a closet, and get a hard on thinking about the USA.