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Old November 22nd 03, 12:47 AM
BllFs6
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He elected to fly a single engine for the simple reason he couldn't see
dragging a second engine if one failed.


which brings up an interesting concept....

a twin engine plane where you can dump/drop the bad engine when it quits
working....


certainly not a trivial thing......but with modern explosive bolts and/or other
clever mechanical means ya never know.....

dumping a bad engine over land or near the airport probably NOT worth the
bother....

Being able to drop a bad engine halfway across crossing the ocean....probably
more worth considering.....

take care

Blll


I wonder if Burt Rutan considered dropping one of voyager engines at some point
in the voyager flight?
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Old November 22nd 03, 09:19 AM
Richard Riley
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On 22 Nov 2003 09:13:08 GMT, (B2431) wrote:

:From:
(BllFs6)
:Date: 11/21/2003 6:47 PM Central Standard Time
:Message-id:
:
: He elected to fly a single engine for the simple reason he couldn't see
: dragging a second engine if one failed.
:
:
:which brings up an interesting concept....
:
:a twin engine plane where you can dump/drop the bad engine when it quits
:working....
:
:
:certainly not a trivial thing......but with modern explosive bolts and/or
:other
:clever mechanical means ya never know.....
:
:dumping a bad engine over land or near the airport probably NOT worth the
:bother....
:
:Being able to drop a bad engine halfway across crossing the ocean....probably
:more worth considering.....
:
:take care
:
:Blll
:
:
:I wonder if Burt Rutan considered dropping one of voyager engines at some
:point
:in the voyager flight?
:
ropping an engine would tend to mess up one's center of gravity a tad.
:
:The only case I can see where it might work would be in the Ju-52(3M). It
rigionally flew with only the nose engine. I guess punching off the outboards
:might not mess up things too bad unless you are on the ground an catch one.
:
:The question is why throw away a few kilodollars worth of perfectly good
:engine?

It would violate the rules of the NAA and FAI, the groups that award
the records, or they certainly would have used drop tanks. They
didn't even drop out their - ahem - used food.


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Old November 22nd 03, 01:09 AM
Kevin Horton
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On Sat, 22 Nov 2003 00:40:36 +0000, Blueskies wrote:

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"Big John" wrote in message
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Dan

I thought he (his support group in St Louis) couldn't scrape up enough
money to buy a twin?

Big John

On 21 Nov 2003 21:41:13 GMT, (B2431) wrote:

From:
(Fred the Red Shirt)

(Jay) wrote in message

"It's just one of the risks you take when you play the game with a
single-engine aircraft," he said.

Well said Mr. Swears.


OTOH if your two-engine plane is too heavy to fly on one engine alone
you face
twice the risk you do in a single-engine.


FF

Some guy named Lindbergh flew a little airplane across a pond a long
time ago. He elected to fly a single engine for the simple reason he
couldn't see dragging a second engine if one failed.

Dan, U. S. Air Force, retired



From all I have read Lindbergh wanted a single, reliable engine; that is
why he chose the Wright engine. He knew it would run for the required time
and he was very careful with the breakin and initial runs...


I would imagine that given the large fuel load required, the weight for a
significant portion of the flight would have been high enough that the
aircraft would not have been able to maintain altitude if one engine
failed. So in this case all a second engine would have done would be
double the odds of ending up in the drink for a significant portion of the
flight.

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Old November 22nd 03, 10:53 PM
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Kevin Horton wrote in message ...
On Sat, 22 Nov 2003 00:40:36 +0000, Blueskies wrote:


On 21 Nov 2003 21:41:13 GMT, (B2431) wrote:

From:
(Fred the Red Shirt)


(Jay) wrote in message


"It's just one of the risks you take when you play the game with a
single-engine aircraft," he said.

Well said Mr. Swears.


OTOH if your two-engine plane is too heavy to fly on one engine alone
you face

twice the risk you do in a single-engine.


FF

Some guy named Lindbergh flew a little airplane across a pond a long
time ago. He elected to fly a single engine for the simple reason he
couldn't see dragging a second engine if one failed.

Dan, U. S. Air Force, retired


From all I have read Lindbergh wanted a single, reliable engine; that is
why he chose the Wright engine. He knew it would run for the required time
and he was very careful with the breakin and initial runs...


I would imagine that given the large fuel load required, the weight for a
significant portion of the flight would have been high enough that the
aircraft would not have been able to maintain altitude if one engine
failed. So in this case all a second engine would have done would be
double the odds of ending up in the drink for a significant portion of the
flight.


Yes. Lindbergh's decision to fly a single engine aircraft was the
example an old engineer used when explaining to me the difference
between redundancy and multiple opportunities for failure.

--

FF
 




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