Houston crash today

The other one the same day at Truckee was not a fatality thank god. Pilot is recovering well.

On Monday, July 14, 2014 5:10:15 PM UTC-7, Ramy wrote:
The other one the same day at Truckee was not a fatality thank god. Pilot is recovering well.

That was at least the third crash of a JS1-C this year, the first was a fatality in South Africa back in January. The report I saw was sketchy, but highly experienced pilot (glider and otherwise), high winds, and likely stall/spin. I don't know how many have been made, so far, but while it may be a higher than usual accident rate, it could just be sad coincidence.

Are there any details online about the Truckee crash?

This reminds me... Why does anyone think it's safe to spin a Puchcaz?

The history of stall/spin accidents claiming experienced glider pilots has become a phenomenon which I believed is unequaled in any other aspect of modern aviation safety. Everyone is CONTINUALLY warned and it continues at an incredible rate!

There is not to my knowledge any indication that the Truckee accident was a stall/spin. What little reporting I've seen points in a somewhat different direction. It's mostly speculation right now so take care.

If you can't spell it, don't spin it.

At 01:51 15 July 2014, Kevin Christner wrote:
This reminds me... Why does anyone think it's safe to spin a Puchcaz?

OK, I'll bite.

Why do you think it's NOT safe to spin a Puchacz?

And do you think it IS safe to spin a K21?

KN

At 01:51 15 July 2014, Kevin Christner wrote:
This reminds me... Why does anyone think it's safe to spin a Puchcaz?

Why do you think it's NOT safe to spin a Puchacz?

As of January 2004 Cindy B. had identified 23 fatal spins or over 1/8 of the fleet. A high proportion of these were fatal and several involved 2 CFIGs at the controls. A few searches will yield a couple more since then.

And do you think it IS safe to spin a K21?

To my knowledge K21s are permitted for spinning. Don't they have a tail ballast box for that purpose? I believe something over 1000 have been built. I don't think 125+ have plowed into the ground.

If a glider does not spin (like an unmodded ASK-21), it will not be
involved in a spin-related accident. Unfortunately pilots do spin.
Sometimes even if they don't want too. And most aircraft they fly after
their training on ASK-21's do too.