Glider pilot rolls inverted and exits at 1400 feet AGL

I guess I wasn't clear in my meaning.

I should have said that, after pulling yourself up by the instrument
panel (I assume your butt is out of the seat), rather than opening your
chute on the center line of the aircraft, it would be preferable to lean
yourself to one side and, hopefully, you'd go under the wing. Even if
you hit the wing or tail, your speed relative to the glider would be
very low and shouldn't cause much more than a bruise. On the other
hand, if you deploy your chute while standing hunched over in the
cockpit, your chances of a miserable ride to the ground while attached
to the tail of the aircraft are significantly increased.

Your life is in your hands at this point and it would do you well
(that's everyone) to know what to do and realize that things most likely
won't happen as you plan. I won't need the time for adrenaline to build
up since I've taken the initiative to get jump training.

Dan Marotta

On 7/29/2014 10:57 AM, John Carlyle wrote:
Dan, the key words were "last resort", ie, desperation time. Also, on the ground I am unable to roll out of the cockpit with a chute on my back from the normal seating position, much less while pulling myself as far forward as I can get. I think I can forget about being able to roll out while airborne under G loads, but maybe adrenaline would work wonders. I hope I never find out...

-John, Q3

On Tuesday, July 29, 2014 11:48:20 AM UTC-4, Dan Marotta wrote:
That maneuver may well have your parachute entangled in the tail of the
aircraft. Everything sounded great until the part about pulling the rip
cord. Better to get in the pulled up position and then roll right or
left out of the aircraft.

Dan Marotta

On 7/29/2014 7:48 AM, John Carlyle wrote:
Kirk has a lot of good ideas! I, too, will keep the "push the stick forward to help get out" maneuver in mind. If that doesn't work, though, seven years ago on RAS Kirk suggested a last resort maneuver:

"You can't get out of the cockpit. Last resort, (canopy gone) is to unstrap, lean forward as far as you can (pull yourself using the instrument panel), then pull the rip-cord. You WILL be extracted from the glider."

I sincerely hope that I never have to use either maneuver!

-John, Q3

Amazing; 19 posts and no one has mentioned DG's "NOAH"
system.
Jettison canopy and pull one handle, it automatically
disconnects the straps and "ejects" pilot within a second or so.
See:-
http://www.dg-flugzeugbau.de/index.php?id=noah-e

On Tuesday, July 29, 2014 3:47:33 PM UTC-4, Dan Marotta wrote:
I guess I wasn't clear in my meaning.



I should have said that, after pulling yourself up by the instrument

panel (I assume your butt is out of the seat), rather than opening your

chute on the center line of the aircraft, it would be preferable to lean

yourself to one side and, hopefully, you'd go under the wing. Even if

you hit the wing or tail, your speed relative to the glider would be

very low and shouldn't cause much more than a bruise. On the other

hand, if you deploy your chute while standing hunched over in the

cockpit, your chances of a miserable ride to the ground while attached

to the tail of the aircraft are significantly increased.



Your life is in your hands at this point and it would do you well

(that's everyone) to know what to do and realize that things most likely

won't happen as you plan. I won't need the time for adrenaline to build

up since I've taken the initiative to get jump training.



Dan Marotta



On 7/29/2014 10:57 AM, John Carlyle wrote:

Dan, the key words were "last resort", ie, desperation time. Also, on the ground I am unable to roll out of the cockpit with a chute on my back from the normal seating position, much less while pulling myself as far forward as I can get. I think I can forget about being able to roll out while airborne under G loads, but maybe adrenaline would work wonders. I hope I never find out...



-John, Q3



On Tuesday, July 29, 2014 11:48:20 AM UTC-4, Dan Marotta wrote:

That maneuver may well have your parachute entangled in the tail of the

aircraft. Everything sounded great until the part about pulling the rip

cord. Better to get in the pulled up position and then roll right or

left out of the aircraft.



Dan Marotta



On 7/29/2014 7:48 AM, John Carlyle wrote:

Kirk has a lot of good ideas! I, too, will keep the "push the stick forward to help get out" maneuver in mind. If that doesn't work, though, seven years ago on RAS Kirk suggested a last resort maneuver:



"You can't get out of the cockpit. Last resort, (canopy gone) is to unstrap, lean forward as far as you can (pull yourself using the instrument panel), then pull the rip-cord. You WILL be extracted from the glider."



I sincerely hope that I never have to use either maneuver!



-John, Q3

It is really sad that most people do not receive an adequate training how to leave a glider. When I started flying at the age of 16 not only I went through hours of ground training that included leaving a glider being in all possible positions but I also I had to make a real jump. I consider myself very fortunate I received this training at the beginning of my flying experience.

On another note I was also fortunate to receive aerobatic training in a glider which I consider another desired training.

I would suggest aerobatic training to every glider pilot as well as good emergency training.

I bet someone could make good money running a training class like that in the USA.

I hope no one reading this post will ever need this skill, but having the skill greatly increases your chances of survival.

In the past I read accident reports where pilots did not know if they were in a spiral or spin. That is a result of very poor training as well.

On Tuesday, July 29, 2014 4:16:46 PM UTC-4, Pam Howarth wrote:
Amazing; 19 posts and no one has mentioned DG's "NOAH"
system.

I wonder how many of those have been sold and whether any have been deployed in flight yet.

Likewise are the ballistic whole plane parachutes that give you more time to bail out.

On Monday, July 28, 2014 11:14:48 AM UTC+12, son_of_flubber wrote:
http://news.stv.tv/tayside/282807-pi...de-in-mid-air/

Can anyone advise the make of the two sailplanes involved.

John

And where they using Flarm?

Ramy

At 08:19 31 July 2014, Ramy wrote:
And where they using Flarm?

Ramy

No Flarms. There exists a difference of views at the Scottish Gliding
Centre
as to whether Flarm alerts have a net benefit for gliders on our local
ridge
overflying two villages. The worry is that pilots could be alarmed by
alarms
and thus overloaded.

John Galloway

Does anyone know what trajectory a glider takes when the pilot jumps out?
The loss of weight forward of the C/G would upset the trim by a significant
amount.... More so if the glider was inverted.

An amazing photo of the bailout just emerged:
http://www.cambridge-news.co.uk/Hunt...0731101407.htm

Ramy

On Thu, 31 Jul 2014 10:33:49 -0700, Ramy wrote:

An amazing photo of the bailout just emerged:
http://www.cambridge-news.co.uk/Hunt...t-Neots/Pilot-
pictured-baling-out-after-mid-air-crash-near-St-Neots-20140731101407.htm

That's a different bailout.


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