Another mid-air (UK)

Don't fall into the trap that on-line newspapers date stamp stories with
today's date. This article relates to an event on Saturday 26 August
2014.

For the record there have been 4 notifiable Midairs in the last 2 years in
the UK.

All have had successful outcomes (in terms of casualties) and all with 1
pilot bailing out and the other pilot(s) landing.

A success story in terms of pilot training for the positive outcome but
more of an issue in terms of why they are occuring in the first place.

I won't speculate as the last 3 have occurred in the last 3 months and I
haven't read the formal reports.

Neil


At 11:33 04 August 2014, wrote:
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...#ixzz39BhomNQI

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On Monday, August 4, 2014 8:13:54 AM UTC-4, Neil Goudie wrote:
This article relates to an event on Saturday 26 August 2014.

July?

At 13:21 04 August 2014, son_of_flubber wrote:
On Monday, August 4, 2014 8:13:54 AM UTC-4, Neil Goudie wrote:
This article relates to an event on Saturday 26 August 2014.

July?


Yes July. I flipped by calendar this morning at work.

Still hoping to hear about Flarm status in all the midairs mentioned and if they all happened in crowded gaggles. Understandably Flarm effectiveness diminishes in crowded thermals.

Ramy

At 16:11 04 August 2014, Ramy wrote:
Still hoping to hear about Flarm status in all the midairs
mentioned and if
they all happened in crowded gaggles. Understandably Flarm
effectiveness
diminishes in crowded thermals.

Ramy


Of the 3 incidents, 3 of the 6 gliders are confirmed as carrying
FLARM, the status of the other 3 is still not confirmed, so they too
could have been.

In 1 incident 2 FLARM carrying gliders flew alone in a thermal for 13
turns before hitting each other.

Overall given the number/rate of Flarm carrying gliders in the UK
they are significantly over represented in these recent stats. The
conclusion maybe that for some reason carrying FLARM increases
the risk of collision compared to not carrying it! ... discuss...

On Monday, August 4, 2014 10:55:55 AM UTC-7, Stats Watcher wrote:
At 16:11 04 August 2014, Ramy wrote:

Still hoping to hear about Flarm status in all the midairs

mentioned and if

they all happened in crowded gaggles. Understandably Flarm

effectiveness

diminishes in crowded thermals.



Ramy





Of the 3 incidents, 3 of the 6 gliders are confirmed as carrying

FLARM, the status of the other 3 is still not confirmed, so they too

could have been.



In 1 incident 2 FLARM carrying gliders flew alone in a thermal for 13

turns before hitting each other.



Overall given the number/rate of Flarm carrying gliders in the UK

they are significantly over represented in these recent stats. The

conclusion maybe that for some reason carrying FLARM increases

the risk of collision compared to not carrying it! ... discuss...

Complacency?

I continue to refer to my Flarm brick as an in-flight entertainment system, not a collision detection system. It contributes to situational awareness, but only the pilot can prevent collision.

Statistically speaking, one could propose a number of reasons why gliders with Flarm are more likely to be flying in gaggles and therefore more at risk of collision (more active pilots with newer equipment, more likely to be flying in contests, etc.).