iPhone 6+ or Galaxy Note 4?

On Friday, October 17, 2014 2:59:02 PM UTC-7, Craig Funston wrote:
On Friday, October 17, 2014 11:44:45 AM UTC-7, jfitch wrote:

On Friday, October 17, 2014 10:13:28 AM UTC-7, Bruce Hoult wrote:



On 2014-10-17 16:22:31 +0000, jfitch said:















On Thursday, October 16, 2014 11:15:51 PM UTC-7, Duster wrote:







With the larger-format 5.5" iPhone 6 Plus coming out to match the







Galaxy Note 4, which of those two do glider pilots recommend for







running common navigation software? ...or other pluses/minuses?















Thanks,















Michael















Depends on what software you want to run? Certainly there are more







programs available for Android, however iGlide only runs on the iPhone







and makes the others look two decades dated.















Wow, that's pricey!!















OK, it's cheaper than the iPhone, let alone the glider. And I'm sure







the market is small and the developer needs to buy groceries...















Does it work only from the internal sensors (e.g. GPS), or can it







receive info from airspeed, heading, vario etc? If so, how?







iGlide will work with the internal GPS, maybe in the future it might use the barometric sensor in the iPhone 6 though one shouldn't expect great vario performance from that.







But you can connect it to your other instruments one way or another. With a Butterfly vario, via WiFi. With other instruments, via the Air Avionics (Butterfly) Air Connect, which creates a WiFi connection from your standard 9 pin serial NMEA stream. Or buy Air's black box sensor/recorder Air Sens which also includes the WiFi interface (but I don't think gives you variometer functions?).







For navigation and most glide calculations the internal GPS alone does an OK job. Connected to your other systems you get barographic glide calculations, Flarm leeching display, thermal assistant, etc. Price is a bit cheaper than SYM, even for the Pro version, eh? No other software even comes close to the user interface.



Is the iPhone 6 plus display easily readable in strong sunlight?



Thanks,

Craig

Good question. I haven't been able to find one to look. The brightness specs are the same as the 5s, but the contrast specs are better. I have found the 5s to be marginal in direct sun, and unreadable if there are reflections in the direct sun. Somewhat better if you turn off terrain. Not as bright as the Avier/OudieII, but brighter than the iPaq 39xx. The screen on the iPhone is MUCH higher resolution than the Avier/Oudie, but physically smaller until you get a 6 or 6 plus. The larger size cannot hurt. It is not a transflective like the Dell.

While not about the iPhone directly, I would still suggest checking out the Kobo e-reader option. The display is black and white but it is always readable in flight, no matter what the sun direction is. You can put the "system" together for under $100. Kobo Mini's are out of production but still around for $60, A GPS chip is around $30, and the wiring is up to you or your local computer repair shop. Runs XCSoar or Top Hat.

For me readability in flight is a top priority, and you can always read a book on it.
http://www.50k-or-bust.com/Kobo%20XC...Notes%2001.pdf

Gary

On Sunday, October 19, 2014 9:34:44 AM UTC-5, wrote:
While not about the iPhone directly, I would still suggest checking out the Kobo e-reader option. The display is black and white but it is always readable in flight, no matter what the sun direction is. You can put the "system" together for under $100. Kobo Mini's are out of production but still around for $60, A GPS chip is around $30, and the wiring is up to you or your local computer repair shop. Runs XCSoar or Top Hat.



For me readability in flight is a top priority, and you can always read a book on it.

http://www.50k-or-bust.com/Kobo%20XC...Notes%2001.pdf



Gary

Below is a partial list of devices and their measured brightness of at least 400 "nits" obtained from "phonearena.com" and passed on by a kind XCSoar folk. -Michael

BlackBerry Q5 912
BlackBerry Passport 894
Nokia Lumia 720 740
BlackBerry Z10 739
Sony Xperia Z3 713
Nokia Lumia 1520 707
Samsung Galaxy NotePRO 12.2 627
Nokia Lumia 620 623
Kyocera Brigadier 610
Apple iPhone 6 606
Google Nexus 7 (2013) 591
Apple iPhone 5s 587
HTC Desire 700 577
Apple iPhone 6 Plus 574
Sony Xperia T3 569
Amazon Fire Phone 566
Meizu MX4 535
Apple iPhone 5 535
HTC One (E8) 524
Nokia Lumia 1320 521
Sony Xperia Z1 Compact 515
HTC One (M8) for Windows 514
HTC Butterfly 2 510
Sony Xperia T2 Ultra 508
HTC Desire 601 503
Sony Xperia Z1 495
Alcatel OneTouch Hero 495
Samsung Galaxy S5 Active 491
HTC One (M8) 490
Sony Xperia SP 490
HTC One mini 2 489
Alcatel OneTouch Idol Alpha 486
Google Nexus 5 485
Huawei Ascend Mate7 484
Sony Xperia C 480
HTC One mini 480
HTC One max 469
Samsung Galaxy Note 4 468
Huawei Ascend P7 463
Xiaomi Mi-3 463
Sony Xperia M2 461
HTC One 460
Sony Xperia Z2 458
HTC Desire 500 458
Samsung Galaxy Grand 2 458
Huawei Ascend Mate 2 4G 457
OPPO Find 7a 455
LG G3 455
OPPO R819 453
Apple iPad mini 2 450
OnePlus One 447
Alcatel OneTouch Idol X+ 447
Samsung Galaxy S5 442
ZTE ZMAX 441
HTC Desire 300 441
Nokia Lumia 635 440
Sony Xperia Z 440
Sony Xperia M 438
LG G2 438
Sony Xperia Z3 Compact 436
Alcatel OneTouch Idol X 431
Samsung GALAXY Note 10.1 (2014 Edition) 430
Samsung Galaxy Mega 5.8 430
Motorola Moto G 429
Samsung Galaxy S4 Active 427
Google Nexus 4 427
Apple iPad Air 426
GIGABYTE GSmart Guru 426
GIGABYTE GSmart Roma R2 425
Sony Xperia Z Ultra 425
OPPO N1 423
Samsung Galaxy Alpha 422
LG G Pro 2 420
Samsung Galaxy Tab S 8.4 419
HTC Desire 501 418
Sony Xperia Z2 Tablet 417
Acer Liquid S1 411
Samsung Galaxy Tab Pro 8.4 410
HTC Desire 600 410
Sony Xperia L 410
Samsung Galaxy Tab 3 8-inch 408
Samsung Galaxy Trend Plus 405
Samsung Galaxy Tab 3 10.1-inch 402
HTC One X+ 400

If it's XCSoar you want to run, you can always research hardware he
http://www.xcsoar.org/hardware/

This should also be valid for Top Hat.

Dan Marotta

On 10/19/2014 9:20 AM, Duster wrote:
BlackBerry Q5 912
BlackBerry Passport 894
Nokia Lumia 720 740
BlackBerry Z10 739
Sony Xperia Z3 713
Nokia Lumia 1520 707
Samsung Galaxy NotePRO 12.2 627
Nokia Lumia 620 623
Kyocera Brigadier 610
Apple iPhone 6 606
Google Nexus 7 (2013) 591
Apple iPhone 5s 587
HTC Desire 700 577
Apple iPhone 6 Plus 574
Sony Xperia T3 569
Amazon Fire Phone 566
Meizu MX4 535
Apple iPhone 5 535
HTC One (E8) 524
Nokia Lumia 1320 521
Sony Xperia Z1 Compact 515
HTC One (M8) for Windows 514
HTC Butterfly 2 510
Sony Xperia T2 Ultra 508
HTC Desire 601 503
Sony Xperia Z1 495
Alcatel OneTouch Hero 495
Samsung Galaxy S5 Active 491
HTC One (M8) 490
Sony Xperia SP 490
HTC One mini 2 489
Alcatel OneTouch Idol Alpha 486
Google Nexus 5 485
Huawei Ascend Mate7 484
Sony Xperia C 480
HTC One mini 480
HTC One max 469
Samsung Galaxy Note 4 468
Huawei Ascend P7 463
Xiaomi Mi-3 463
Sony Xperia M2 461
HTC One 460
Sony Xperia Z2 458
HTC Desire 500 458
Samsung Galaxy Grand 2 458
Huawei Ascend Mate 2 4G 457
OPPO Find 7a 455
LG G3 455
OPPO R819 453
Apple iPad mini 2 450
OnePlus One 447
Alcatel OneTouch Idol X+ 447
Samsung Galaxy S5 442
ZTE ZMAX 441
HTC Desire 300 441
Nokia Lumia 635 440
Sony Xperia Z 440
Sony Xperia M 438
LG G2 438
Sony Xperia Z3 Compact 436
Alcatel OneTouch Idol X 431
Samsung GALAXY Note 10.1 (2014 Edition) 430
Samsung Galaxy Mega 5.8 430
Motorola Moto G 429
Samsung Galaxy S4 Active 427
Google Nexus 4 427
Apple iPad Air 426
GIGABYTE GSmart Guru 426
GIGABYTE GSmart Roma R2 425
Sony Xperia Z Ultra 425
OPPO N1 423
Samsung Galaxy Alpha 422
LG G Pro 2 420
Samsung Galaxy Tab S 8.4 419
HTC Desire 501 418
Sony Xperia Z2 Tablet 417
Acer Liquid S1 411
Samsung Galaxy Tab Pro 8.4 410
HTC Desire 600 410
Sony Xperia L 410
Samsung Galaxy Tab 3 8-inch 408
Samsung Galaxy Trend Plus 405
Samsung Galaxy Tab 3 10.1-inch 402
HTC One X+ 400

On Sunday, October 19, 2014 8:20:10 AM UTC-7, Duster wrote:
On Sunday, October 19, 2014 9:34:44 AM UTC-5, wrote:

While not about the iPhone directly, I would still suggest checking out the Kobo e-reader option. The display is black and white but it is always readable in flight, no matter what the sun direction is. You can put the "system" together for under $100. Kobo Mini's are out of production but still around for $60, A GPS chip is around $30, and the wiring is up to you or your local computer repair shop. Runs XCSoar or Top Hat.







For me readability in flight is a top priority, and you can always read a book on it.



http://www.50k-or-bust.com/Kobo%20XC...Notes%2001.pdf







Gary



Below is a partial list of devices and their measured brightness of at least 400 "nits" obtained from "phonearena.com" and passed on by a kind XCSoar folk. -Michael



BlackBerry Q5 912

BlackBerry Passport 894

Nokia Lumia 720 740

BlackBerry Z10 739

Sony Xperia Z3 713

Nokia Lumia 1520 707

Samsung Galaxy NotePRO 12.2 627

Nokia Lumia 620 623

Kyocera Brigadier 610

Apple iPhone 6 606

Google Nexus 7 (2013) 591

Apple iPhone 5s 587

HTC Desire 700 577

Apple iPhone 6 Plus 574

Sony Xperia T3 569

Amazon Fire Phone 566

Meizu MX4 535

Apple iPhone 5 535

HTC One (E8) 524

Nokia Lumia 1320 521

Sony Xperia Z1 Compact 515

HTC One (M8) for Windows 514

HTC Butterfly 2 510

Sony Xperia T2 Ultra 508

HTC Desire 601 503

Sony Xperia Z1 495

Alcatel OneTouch Hero 495

Samsung Galaxy S5 Active 491

HTC One (M8) 490

Sony Xperia SP 490

HTC One mini 2 489

Alcatel OneTouch Idol Alpha 486

Google Nexus 5 485

Huawei Ascend Mate7 484

Sony Xperia C 480

HTC One mini 480

HTC One max 469

Samsung Galaxy Note 4 468

Huawei Ascend P7 463

Xiaomi Mi-3 463

Sony Xperia M2 461

HTC One 460

Sony Xperia Z2 458

HTC Desire 500 458

Samsung Galaxy Grand 2 458

Huawei Ascend Mate 2 4G 457

OPPO Find 7a 455

LG G3 455

OPPO R819 453

Apple iPad mini 2 450

OnePlus One 447

Alcatel OneTouch Idol X+ 447

Samsung Galaxy S5 442

ZTE ZMAX 441

HTC Desire 300 441

Nokia Lumia 635 440

Sony Xperia Z 440

Sony Xperia M 438

LG G2 438

Sony Xperia Z3 Compact 436

Alcatel OneTouch Idol X 431

Samsung GALAXY Note 10.1 (2014 Edition) 430

Samsung Galaxy Mega 5.8 430

Motorola Moto G 429

Samsung Galaxy S4 Active 427

Google Nexus 4 427

Apple iPad Air 426

GIGABYTE GSmart Guru 426

GIGABYTE GSmart Roma R2 425

Sony Xperia Z Ultra 425

OPPO N1 423

Samsung Galaxy Alpha 422

LG G Pro 2 420

Samsung Galaxy Tab S 8.4 419

HTC Desire 501 418

Sony Xperia Z2 Tablet 417

Acer Liquid S1 411

Samsung Galaxy Tab Pro 8.4 410

HTC Desire 600 410

Sony Xperia L 410

Samsung Galaxy Tab 3 8-inch 408

Samsung Galaxy Trend Plus 405

Samsung Galaxy Tab 3 10.1-inch 402

HTC One X+ 400

Unfortunately brightness has little to do with sunlight readability of a color screen. The contrast ratio, lack of a touch overlay and the specialized coatings are the features that make a display sunlight readable.

Brightness of 1500 + nits is required to over come poor sunlight readable design and even then it appears washed out compared to a properly designed display.

Richard
www.craggyaero.com