iPhone 6+ or Galaxy Note 4?

On Friday, 17 October 2014 08:15:51 UTC+2, Duster wrote:
With the larger-format 5.5" iPhone 6 Plus coming out to match the Galaxy Note 4, which of those two do glider pilots recommend for running common navigation software? ...or other pluses/minuses?

Thanks,

Michael

Besides the screen brightness, there are a few other questions I'd ask such as:

1. If also intend using the phone for every day use, which of the two eco systems do you want to tie yourself into? Apple's payware, do-it-our-way-only system or the more flexible, more open Android eco system?

2. Does Apple cover accidental damage?
With Samsung you get also get two free, no questions asked, free repairs for accidental screen or water damage. (ADH Premium)

3. Battery life. Not having to use external power saves on the expense and hassle of extra cabling and an external power source to keep the device running. The Note 4 has a significant advantage over the iPhone 6 in terms of battery life.
I use the Note 2 with XCSoar and from a full charge I get 8.5 hours of continuous use which is longer than I plan to stay in the air for.

The kobi e readers (at least some of them) are compatible with xc soar. Shouldn't e readers be a smart way to go with the lower battery use and very little disadvantage with black and white? Has anyone tried any other eReaders with xc soar? I imagine most E readers really are not built to operate in direct sunlight, same as phones/tablets but there could be some exceptions.

The dell streak 5" is around 300 dollars now.

On Monday, 27 March 2017 12:01:14 UTC+3, wrote:
The kobi e readers (at least some of them) are compatible with xc soar. Shouldn't e readers be a smart way to go with the lower battery use and very little disadvantage with black and white? Has anyone tried any other eReaders with xc soar? I imagine most E readers really are not built to operate in direct sunlight, same as phones/tablets but there could be some exceptions.

The dell streak 5" is around 300 dollars now.

Yes and no, sunlight readability is best around, but they have problem with slow screen update, watching animated map can be pain sometimes. I tried Koko Glo HD and returned it immediately, the XCSoar did not support it (then) properly, while comments on XCSoar forum lead me to believe that was the case. Lesson learned.

Specs for good gliding computer dislay are he

- Colour display
- Over 1000 nits brightness (readability has everything to do with this, not contrast)
- Matte screen surface, unless you need a mirror in cockpit
- Touch screen

Good luck finding something that has these all.

On Mon, 27 Mar 2017 02:21:22 -0700, krasw wrote:

Specs for good gliding computer dislay are he

- Colour display - Over 1000 nits brightness (readability has everything
to do with this, not contrast)
- Matte screen surface, unless you need a mirror in cockpit - Touch
screen

The best I've used is a Medion S3747, which has a transreflective colour
display and is compatible with LK8000 (and so should be fine with XCSoar).

Its readable with full sunlight directly on its face and has an 800 mAh,
swappable battery and is very well made. It has a 3.5" display, which
suits me fine (Libelle driver, so no easy way to hang a PNA off the side
of the panel).

IMO they're worth grabbing if you can find one. Picture here, positioned
in apple tree for cuteness rather than to show sunlight readability:
http://www.gregorie.org/gliding/pna/



--
martin@ | Martin Gregorie
gregorie. | Essex, UK
org |

On Monday, 27 March 2017 12:53:54 UTC+2, Martin Gregorie wrote:
The best I've used is a Medion S3747, which has a transreflective colour
display and is compatible with LK8000 (and so should be fine with XCSoar).

Support for Windows CE has been dropped from XCSoar in version 7 and higher.
You can still run the older versions on CE though.
I find it hard to believe devices running Windows CE are still being sold.

On Mon, 27 Mar 2017 04:39:56 -0700, Surge wrote:

On Monday, 27 March 2017 12:53:54 UTC+2, Martin Gregorie wrote:
The best I've used is a Medion S3747, which has a transreflective
colour display and is compatible with LK8000 (and so should be fine
with XCSoar).

Support for Windows CE has been dropped from XCSoar in version 7 and
higher.
You can still run the older versions on CE though.
I find it hard to believe devices running Windows CE are still being
sold.

None of the WinCE/WinMobile PNAs have been on sale since shortly after MS
dropped support for WinMobile (soon after Windows 8 was released IIRC)
but, like the Streak, they can still be found on eBay etc.

I'm still wondering what I'll use next: possibly something based on a
RaspberryPi Zero. The only problem is that available COTS touch screens
may not be usable in bright sunlight.


--
martin@ | Martin Gregorie
gregorie. | Essex, UK
org |

I have been using the Galaxy Note 4 with CAI302/XCSoar for some time now and IT IS sunlight readable (with sunglasses on). Note 5 is said to be still better, and the fatal Galaxy Note 7, which I could use for few days before recall, was simply sensational with its double light sensors (front and rear, and thus not changing the brightness all the time in circling in a thermal) and reaching 1000 nits.

This coming Wednesday, March 29, Samsung will present the new Galaxy S8, which in the 'plus' version is expected to have a 6.2" display. Later in the year the Note 8 is expected to have 6.4" display. Let's save money and wait, while the old Note 4 is still working, with cheap replacement OEM batteries ($18).

Tom BravoMike

I flew for 2 seasons with a Samsung Galaxy Note 4 and it was fully sunshine readable even with Polarized sunglasses on. It was much brighter than any Apple product I held it up to in daylight.
I would recommend the Note 4 for screen visibility, the screen color & responsiveness were great - even complex terrain but also because you can use USB on the Go (OTG)to transfer flight recordings and data via USB thumb drives or just email the trace directly to the scorer/upload to OLC.
I used the Bluetooth with a K6 bluetooth unit and a cambridge 302 then later directly to an LXNav S100 vario with built in bluetooth. The WiFi works good too.

I know you can get cheap old tech Dells, but why not have 32gig of memory, a very fast video graphics display and fast processor - won't go obsolete as quick as a Dell Streak. The note 4 could do everything you want from XCsoar and other programs, and even use the built in pressure sensor and gyros if you prefer as a backup.

Chris

On Monday, March 27, 2017 at 2:21:25 AM UTC-7, krasw wrote:
On Monday, 27 March 2017 12:01:14 UTC+3, wrote:
The kobi e readers (at least some of them) are compatible with xc soar. Shouldn't e readers be a smart way to go with the lower battery use and very little disadvantage with black and white? Has anyone tried any other eReaders with xc soar? I imagine most E readers really are not built to operate in direct sunlight, same as phones/tablets but there could be some exceptions.

The dell streak 5" is around 300 dollars now.

Yes and no, sunlight readability is best around, but they have problem with slow screen update, watching animated map can be pain sometimes. I tried Koko Glo HD and returned it immediately, the XCSoar did not support it (then) properly, while comments on XCSoar forum lead me to believe that was the case. Lesson learned.

Specs for good gliding computer dislay are he

- Colour display
- Over 1000 nits brightness (readability has everything to do with this, not contrast)
- Matte screen surface, unless you need a mirror in cockpit
- Touch screen

Good luck finding something that has these all.

I have been running the Kobo Glo with TopHat ( XCSoar hybrid) without any of the issues described above. I have it connected to a ClearNav digital XC vario.

Here's one on Ebay for $65:
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Sealed-Dell-...AOSwuLZYy3k 3

On 3/27/2017 3:01 AM, wrote:
The kobi e readers (at least some of them) are compatible with xc soar. Shouldn't e readers be a smart way to go with the lower battery use and very little disadvantage with black and white? Has anyone tried any other eReaders with xc soar? I imagine most E readers really are not built to operate in direct sunlight, same as phones/tablets but there could be some exceptions.

The dell streak 5" is around 300 dollars now.

--
Dan, 5J