Recognizing and reacting to tow plane engine failure

On 2014-10-26 13:20:35 +0000, Cookie said:

Its all "communication"..

But the whole point of the "turn" signal is that the tow pilot doesn't
need to or try to "fight" it.

So which signals do you use radio for and which signals do you use the
standard accepted signal?

Do you brief glider pilots as to which signals you do not respond to
and which you do?

Has the SSA changed/adopted the accepted signal for "tow plane please
turn" to now a "radio signal"?

When the tow plane rudder hits the stop, what happens? It snap rolls!!!??

Cookie





On Sunday, October 26, 2014 6:48:57 AM UTC-4, Bruce Hoult wrote:
On 2014-10-26 09:45:47 +0000, Cookie said:

Ok...and signalling a turn by moving out to the side will not make the
towplane hit its rudder stops either ...so what's the problem?


Shall we now replace all 17 of the "standard American soaring
signals"...with "use radio"?

Cookie


If boxing the wake causes the towplane to reach control stops then you
are doing it WAY WRONG and should expect to wear the rope, yes.

If it's mere communication ... like wagging your wings ... that's one
thing. If it's physically pulling the tail around against the tow pllot
attempting to maintain his intended heading then that's quite another.

In this country there are two standard accepted non-radio signals from
the towplane, and one from the glider:

From towplane:
- release immediately
- check your airbrakes

From glider:
- I am unable to release

Anything else is prearranged before takeoff, or else in flight over the radio.

The SSA has no influence here.

No...there are 17 accepted signals...none require radio...that's the beauty of signals.......

who put you in charge?


Cookie



On Sunday, October 26, 2014 9:59:21 AM UTC-4, Bruce Hoult wrote:
On 2014-10-26 13:20:35 +0000, Cookie said:

Its all "communication"..

But the whole point of the "turn" signal is that the tow pilot doesn't
need to or try to "fight" it.

So which signals do you use radio for and which signals do you use the
standard accepted signal?


In this country there are two standard accepted non-radio signals from
the towplane, and one from the glider:

From towplane:
- release immediately
- check your airbrakes

From glider:
- I am unable to release

Anything else is prearranged before takeoff, or else in flight over the radio.

The SSA has no influence here.

http://www.soaringsafety.org/pilots/ic7.htm


Gee...look at the first signal....

I suggest you contact the soaring safety foundation and have this situation rectified immediately!

Cookie


In this country there are two standard accepted non-radio signals from
the towplane, and one from the glider:

From towplane:
- release immediately
- check your airbrakes

From glider:
- I am unable to release

Anything else is prearranged before takeoff, or else in flight over the radio.

The SSA has no influence here.

I'm with you cookie. Radio communications often get stepped on or are somehow compromised... The STANDARD AMERICAN SOARING SIGNALS are not.

Boggs

On Sunday, October 26, 2014 11:09:11 AM UTC-4, Waveguru wrote:
I'm with you cookie. Radio communications often get stepped on or are somehow compromised... The STANDARD AMERICAN SOARING SIGNALS are not.

Boggs

Thank you!

Cookie