Best places for a soaring pilot to retire?

On Sunday, February 15, 2015 at 2:41:00 PM UTC-7, Matt Herron Jr. wrote:
Looking for new Ideas for places to retire. The usual considerations apply; cost of living, health care, weather, and available soaring. Doesn't have to be the US. near water would be nice. I own a Ventus C.

Anyone live in/near Grass Valley, CA? 1 hr from Truckee and Sacramento, 1.5 hrs from Williams, 2.5 hrs from Bay area.

Thanks for any suggestions

Matt

Going international multiplies the difficulty exponentially. Just getting your glider into country permanently will involve much difficulty and you could end up doubling its cost in duties. Health care will be a huge issue. You will also have to deal with the issues of permanent residency.

I sold my DG400 to a person in Brazil and was amazed at all of the bureaucratic hoops that had to be jumped thru. For example, the bill of sale had to be notarized (requiring me to create a form that the notary would sign), the notary had to be authenticated by the State, then the entire document had to be legalized by the Brazilian consulate. The whole document package was then sent air mail to Brazil. At any point, the documents could have been lost in the mail, necessitating starting all over again.

Oh, did I mention that ALL running gear, including tongue, jacks and running lights, had to be removed from the trailer and discarded (and replaced in Brazil)!

Tom

Tom / 2G wrote:

"Going international multiplies the difficulty exponentially. Just getting your glider into country permanently will involve much difficulty and you could end up doubling its cost in duties. Health care will be a huge issue."

Hmmmm.....so you had a hard time in one single country so you're now writing off the rest of the world? The United Nations has 193 member states. Your experience WILL vary.

Let's take Australia for example. Despite the distance, shipping your glider there will cost $4.8-6k depending on chosen port and method (container vs RoRo). If you've owned it more than 6 months the tax is NIL. Duties NIL. In fact, tax on any aircraft with not more than one engine for a new immigrant or permanently returning resident is NIL so bring your SR22 too.

The big issue with healthcare is its free gosh darn it. Sorry about that. You don't have to auction your first born child to pay medical bills nor bleed out in the corner of the emergency room because you don't have insurance. In the interests of full disclosure, if you're working you'll pay a 2-3.5% healthcare levy on your taxable income and naturally, the waiting periods for govt provided care are longer than private. As this thread is about retirement, those charges are unlikely to apply.

Ok, that's Brazil and Australia sorted. Only 191 more countries to go....

Casey
B3

On Wednesday, February 18, 2015 at 6:44:25 PM UTC-7, wrote:
Tom / 2G wrote:

"Going international multiplies the difficulty exponentially. Just getting your glider into country permanently will involve much difficulty and you could end up doubling its cost in duties. Health care will be a huge issue.."

Hmmmm.....so you had a hard time in one single country so you're now writing off the rest of the world? The United Nations has 193 member states. Your experience WILL vary.

Let's take Australia for example. Despite the distance, shipping your glider there will cost $4.8-6k depending on chosen port and method (container vs RoRo). If you've owned it more than 6 months the tax is NIL. Duties NIL. In fact, tax on any aircraft with not more than one engine for a new immigrant or permanently returning resident is NIL so bring your SR22 too.

The big issue with healthcare is its free gosh darn it. Sorry about that.. You don't have to auction your first born child to pay medical bills nor bleed out in the corner of the emergency room because you don't have insurance. In the interests of full disclosure, if you're working you'll pay a 2-3.5% healthcare levy on your taxable income and naturally, the waiting periods for govt provided care are longer than private. As this thread is about retirement, those charges are unlikely to apply.

Ok, that's Brazil and Australia sorted. Only 191 more countries to go....

Casey
B3

How many countries have YOU exported gliders to?! Duties are real, and they MUST BE PAID! I DID NOT say "don't do it", just BE AWARE of what you are getting yourself into. Why don't you come up with ACTUAL experience of exporting gliders instead of criticizing me?

A suggestion:

Sell your glider before emigrating and buy another after immigrating.
You'll likely come up with a newer ship in the bargain.

On 2/21/2015 9:15 PM, 2G wrote:
On Wednesday, February 18, 2015 at 6:44:25 PM UTC-7, wrote:
Tom / 2G wrote:

"Going international multiplies the difficulty exponentially. Just getting your glider into country permanently will involve much difficulty and you could end up doubling its cost in duties. Health care will be a huge issue."

Hmmmm.....so you had a hard time in one single country so you're now writing off the rest of the world? The United Nations has 193 member states. Your experience WILL vary.

Let's take Australia for example. Despite the distance, shipping your glider there will cost $4.8-6k depending on chosen port and method (container vs RoRo). If you've owned it more than 6 months the tax is NIL. Duties NIL. In fact, tax on any aircraft with not more than one engine for a new immigrant or permanently returning resident is NIL so bring your SR22 too.

The big issue with healthcare is its free gosh darn it. Sorry about that. You don't have to auction your first born child to pay medical bills nor bleed out in the corner of the emergency room because you don't have insurance. In the interests of full disclosure, if you're working you'll pay a 2-3.5% healthcare levy on your taxable income and naturally, the waiting periods for govt provided care are longer than private. As this thread is about retirement, those charges are unlikely to apply.

Ok, that's Brazil and Australia sorted. Only 191 more countries to go....

Casey
B3
How many countries have YOU exported gliders to?! Duties are real, and they MUST BE PAID! I DID NOT say "don't do it", just BE AWARE of what you are getting yourself into. Why don't you come up with ACTUAL experience of exporting gliders instead of criticizing me?

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Dan Marotta

On Sunday, February 22, 2015 at 8:55:36 AM UTC-7, Dan Marotta wrote:
A suggestion:



Sell your glider before emigrating and buy another after
immigrating.* You'll likely come up with a newer ship in the
bargain.




On 2/21/2015 9:15 PM, 2G wrote:



On Wednesday, February 18, 2015 at 6:44:25 PM UTC-7, wrote:


Tom / 2G wrote:

"Going international multiplies the difficulty exponentially. Just getting your glider into country permanently will involve much difficulty and you could end up doubling its cost in duties. Health care will be a huge issue.."

Hmmmm.....so you had a hard time in one single country so you're now writing off the rest of the world? The United Nations has 193 member states. Your experience WILL vary.

Let's take Australia for example. Despite the distance, shipping your glider there will cost $4.8-6k depending on chosen port and method (container vs RoRo). If you've owned it more than 6 months the tax is NIL. Duties NIL. In fact, tax on any aircraft with not more than one engine for a new immigrant or permanently returning resident is NIL so bring your SR22 too.

The big issue with healthcare is its free gosh darn it. Sorry about that.. You don't have to auction your first born child to pay medical bills nor bleed out in the corner of the emergency room because you don't have insurance. In the interests of full disclosure, if you're working you'll pay a 2-3.5% healthcare levy on your taxable income and naturally, the waiting periods for govt provided care are longer than private. As this thread is about retirement, those charges are unlikely to apply.

Ok, that's Brazil and Australia sorted. Only 191 more countries to go....

Casey
B3


How many countries have YOU exported gliders to?! Duties are real, and they MUST BE PAID! I DID NOT say "don't do it", just BE AWARE of what you are getting yourself into. Why don't you come up with ACTUAL experience of exporting gliders instead of criticizing me?





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Dan Marotta

I think you had better do it the other way around: buy the glider first, then immigrate. You may find the available inventory not much to your liking. I like to know what I am jumping into before I actually jump.