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Old February 22nd 15, 10:18 PM posted to rec.aviation.soaring
John Galloway[_1_]
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Default FLARM ethics

25,000 devices and rising rapidly is one heck of a "very niche
product" in a market comprising mainly gliding. Flarm, in all its
varied applications, must on of the most widely adopted proprietary
products in the history of gliding - I suspect it will be in the top spot.

Flarm comprises a communication protocol as well as a glider
collision prediction algorithm. For a safety device it would be
bonkers not to have all units not using the most developed examples
of both - especially when updating the firmware is so simple. We in
Europe have been easily coping with Flarm mandatory and optional
updates for several.

John Galloway




At 20:24 22 February 2015, Mike Schumann wrote:


It is NOT impossible to design system upgrades so that they are

backward
co=
mpatible with older units that are still in use. It is probably much

more
=
convenient for FLARM to use this approach so they don't need to

deal with
t=
he complexity of having multiple different device versions that

need to
tal=
k to each other. These kind of shortcuts make one question

whether FLARM
r=
eally has the potential to be a VERY niche product for a small

subset of
th=
e aviation market.

Couple that with POWERFLARM's inability to see UAT equipped

ADS-B OUT
equip=
ped aircraft, either directly or via TIS-B retransmission from an

ADS-B
gro=
und station, raises some big questions on whether or not they

have really
t=
hought thru the whole collision avoidance picture in the US, where

the
thre=
at is not just other gliders, but also GA and airline traffic.


  #2  
Old February 22nd 15, 11:30 PM posted to rec.aviation.soaring
R. Suppards
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Posts: 7
Default FLARM ethics

So easy to understand why Flarm would not sell into North America for so
many years...

At 22:18 22 February 2015, John Galloway wrote:
25,000 devices and rising rapidly is one heck of a "very niche
product" in a market comprising mainly gliding. Flarm, in all its
varied applications, must on of the most widely adopted proprietary
products in the history of gliding - I suspect it will be in the top

spot.

Flarm comprises a communication protocol as well as a glider
collision prediction algorithm. For a safety device it would be
bonkers not to have all units not using the most developed examples
of both - especially when updating the firmware is so simple. We in
Europe have been easily coping with Flarm mandatory and optional
updates for several.

John Galloway




At 20:24 22 February 2015, Mike Schumann wrote:


It is NOT impossible to design system upgrades so that they are

backward
co=
mpatible with older units that are still in use. It is probably much

more
=
convenient for FLARM to use this approach so they don't need to

deal with
t=
he complexity of having multiple different device versions that

need to
tal=
k to each other. These kind of shortcuts make one question

whether FLARM
r=
eally has the potential to be a VERY niche product for a small

subset of
th=
e aviation market.

Couple that with POWERFLARM's inability to see UAT equipped

ADS-B OUT
equip=
ped aircraft, either directly or via TIS-B retransmission from an

ADS-B
gro=
und station, raises some big questions on whether or not they

have really
t=
hought thru the whole collision avoidance picture in the US, where

the
thre=
at is not just other gliders, but also GA and airline traffic.




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Old February 23rd 15, 03:31 PM posted to rec.aviation.soaring
Bob Pasker
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Default FLARM ethics

the classic FLARM didn't meet FCC regulations, so even if they wanted to sell it in the US, they couldn't

On Sunday, February 22, 2015 at 6:45:05 PM UTC-5, R. Suppards wrote:
So easy to understand why Flarm would not sell into North America for so
many years...

 




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