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In wave, in blue hole at cloud level, hole closes, in IMC, then what?



 
 
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Old April 8th 15, 08:48 PM posted to rec.aviation.soaring
Darryl Ramm
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Default In wave, in blue hole at cloud level, hole closes, in IMC, then what?

On Wednesday, April 8, 2015 at 12:33:10 PM UTC-7, Matt Herron Jr. wrote:
any possibility to maintain a heading using the moving map while in the clouds to prevent the start of a spiral dive?


And as you slow down in strong wave you can start flying sideways/backwards and the moving map or fake instrument it is driving "topples". If you want to rely on instruments, they need to be real inertial instrument (and lots of training/practice) in an environment like that.

The near-VNE speed that Ramy described is the eater of gliders in this scenario in strong Wave.
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Old April 8th 15, 09:51 PM posted to rec.aviation.soaring
Jonathon May[_2_]
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Default In wave, in blue hole at cloud level, hole closes, in IMC, then what?

At 19:48 08 April 2015, Darryl Ramm wrote:
On Wednesday, April 8, 2015 at 12:33:10 PM UTC-7, Matt Herron Jr. wrote:
any possibility to maintain a heading using the moving map while in the

c=
louds to prevent the start of a spiral dive?

And as you slow down in strong wave you can start flying
sideways/backwards=
and the moving map or fake instrument it is driving "topples". If you
want=
to rely on instruments, they need to be real inertial instrument (and
lots=
of training/practice) in an environment like that.

The near-VNE speed that Ramy described is the eater of gliders in this
scen=
ario in strong Wave.

I Accept dirty as a good idea because the shorter the time in cloud the
less
chance of messing it up.
But is it worth deploying the turbo but not starting it ,because with the
brakes out and gear down and turbo up the drag will be enormous,it may
even to keep you below VNE.
However you would want to know what the spin characteristics are in that
configuration.
Any thoughts?
Jon

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Old April 8th 15, 11:06 PM posted to rec.aviation.soaring
son_of_flubber
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Default In wave, in blue hole at cloud level, hole closes, in IMC, then what?

On Wednesday, April 8, 2015 at 5:00:06 PM UTC-4, Jonathon May wrote:

But is it worth deploying the turbo but not starting it ,because with the
brakes out and gear down and turbo up the drag will be enormous,it may
even to keep you below VNE.
However you would want to know what the spin characteristics are in that
configuration.
Any thoughts?
Jon


What does the maker of your plane say about doing aerobatics (a spin for instance) with the engine boom deployed? The centrifugal force about the axis of the fuselage might be a factor.

 




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