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On Thursday, May 7, 2015 at 9:26:53 PM UTC-6, Bill T wrote:
It's all in there, 91.225. Concentrate on (d)(2) and (d)(4) and (e).
(e) is your (d)(4) exemption for above 10,000
(e)(1) and (e)(2) applies to the 30nm veil referenced in (d)(2)
Although it is not very clear.

BillT

Yeah, frankly it is a mess. How can you tell from the language that (e)(1) and (e)(2) apply to (d)(2), but not (d)(4)? It says ALL operations authorized by this section.

But another real problem for many western operations is the (e)(2). If it is real, it means that gliders cannot operate above 10,000 feet within the veil without ADS-B OUT, even if clear of the lateral boundaries of the Cass B. This will affect a good number of us in the west.

On Friday, May 8, 2015 at 12:14:02 PM UTC-4, 2KA wrote:
On Thursday, May 7, 2015 at 9:26:53 PM UTC-6, Bill T wrote:
It's all in there, 91.225. Concentrate on (d)(2) and (d)(4) and (e).
(e) is your (d)(4) exemption for above 10,000
(e)(1) and (e)(2) applies to the 30nm veil referenced in (d)(2)
Although it is not very clear.

BillT

Yeah, frankly it is a mess. How can you tell from the language that (e)(1) and (e)(2) apply to (d)(2), but not (d)(4)? It says ALL operations authorized by this section.

But another real problem for many western operations is the (e)(2). If it is real, it means that gliders cannot operate above 10,000 feet within the veil without ADS-B OUT, even if clear of the lateral boundaries of the Cass B. This will affect a good number of us in the west.

It's pretty clear that the intent of the rule is to permit gliders to operate above 10K ft without ADS-B OUT. By the time 2020 rolls around this might be a moot discussion. Hopefully, we'll have some very affordable gear by then so the main obstacle for voluntary equipage will go away.

The 30 nm Mode C Veil does not exist above 10,000 MSL.