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In article , - Barnyard BOb -
says...

Say, Chuck...

Did you not offer Conn a settlement years ago,
although none was owed by you then... as now?

Did Zoom get in the middle of that...
and eventually queer that undeserved deal for Conn?


Unka' BOb - lover of dogs, underdogs and justice

Yeah after about 10 or 11 years since I had any contact with conn he surfaced
and started making demands and threats. He said he would "expose" me to the
aviation press if I didn't pay up. To make a long story short I didn't want to
give zoom any ammo and I thought it would be a good public relations act if I
worked some kind of refund for him .I didn't legally have to do it and told both
conn and zoom that. I was being blackmailed but I tried to turn a lemon into
lemonade.

My offer was to refund the original deposit or put the original deposit plus
interest toward a new kit. Conn would have had to ante up about $4000
difference. conn then said I should give him a kit at my cost and that he
shouldn't have to pay anything. That's when Tony got involved ,then zoom got
involved and the big zoom expose on me was published.

After my name was smeared in zooms magazine and his web site I felt that doing
anything for conn was pointless.I basically felt I was being blackmailed and
when zooms article was published both in his magazine and on his web site I said
what can I gain at this point by trying to help conn out. They took their shot
and conn still wanted a plane as well.

I had no legal obligation towards conn and since he and zoom blew the deal I
wasn't going to give conn a nickle. zoom queered the deal for conn and now conn
is out and has zoom to thank for it. Soon I'll be taking steps to seek relief
from zoom ,conn and jaun for actions over the years trying to hurt me
financially and personally but thats in the future. I got a few more ducks to
get in a row before I make that move. I don't like to make threats but they'll
know it when it happens.

See ya Unka Bob

neefoo Chuck RAH-15/1 ret

"vengence is mine sayeth the Lord, but I don't want vengence ,I want Justice.."

Find it interesting that Juan has gone missing from here for weeks now....
Thought maybe my "Journalists' Credo" message had something to do with it,
but probably its' your ducks....


"ChuckSlusarczyk" wrote in message
...
In article , - Barnyard BOb -
says...

Say, Chuck...

Did you not offer Conn a settlement years ago,
although none was owed by you then... as now?

Did Zoom get in the middle of that...
and eventually queer that undeserved deal for Conn?


Unka' BOb - lover of dogs, underdogs and justice

Yeah after about 10 or 11 years since I had any contact with conn he
surfaced
and started making demands and threats. He said he would "expose" me to
the
aviation press if I didn't pay up. To make a long story short I didn't
want to
give zoom any ammo and I thought it would be a good public relations act
if I
worked some kind of refund for him .I didn't legally have to do it and
told both
conn and zoom that. I was being blackmailed but I tried to turn a lemon
into
lemonade.

My offer was to refund the original deposit or put the original deposit
plus
interest toward a new kit. Conn would have had to ante up about $4000
difference. conn then said I should give him a kit at my cost and that he
shouldn't have to pay anything. That's when Tony got involved ,then zoom
got
involved and the big zoom expose on me was published.

After my name was smeared in zooms magazine and his web site I felt that
doing
anything for conn was pointless.I basically felt I was being blackmailed
and
when zooms article was published both in his magazine and on his web site
I said
what can I gain at this point by trying to help conn out. They took their
shot
and conn still wanted a plane as well.

I had no legal obligation towards conn and since he and zoom blew the deal
I
wasn't going to give conn a nickle. zoom queered the deal for conn and now
conn
is out and has zoom to thank for it. Soon I'll be taking steps to seek
relief
from zoom ,conn and jaun for actions over the years trying to hurt me
financially and personally but thats in the future. I got a few more ducks
to
get in a row before I make that move. I don't like to make threats but
they'll
know it when it happens.

See ya Unka Bob

neefoo Chuck RAH-15/1 ret

"vengence is mine sayeth the Lord, but I don't want vengence ,I want
Justice.."








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In article , red12049 says...

Find it interesting that Juan has gone missing from here for weeks now....
Thought maybe my "Journalists' Credo" message had something to do with it,
but probably its' your ducks....

I don't know if it was the Ducks or not but your "Journalists Credo" should be
must reading not only for zoom and jaun but for the entire media in general.
zoom probably told jaun to back off and like the faithful sock puppet he is ,he
did. Frankly I'm enjoying the peace and quiet :-)

See ya
Happy Thanksgiving

Chuck S RAH-15/1 ret

Wishful thinking.

Still waiting for the Chukster to show proof to go along with his big mouth.
Until then there's very little of interest in the newsgroup.

Oh, and the BBQ is ready for the ducks. But since we know that the Chukster
is about nothing but hot air...

"red12049" wrote in message
...
Find it interesting that Juan has gone missing from here for weeks now....
Thought maybe my "Journalists' Credo" message had something to do with it,
but probably its' your ducks....

Juan,

I give up..... You ask for "proof" for some inconsequential matter.... and
that proof, or lack of response to the request, is to you the full measure
of the man. And you Juan? What is your measure? Would you prefer to be
measured as a person, who, at least on the internet (including ANN), called
himself a journalist, but failed to adhere to the ethics we expect from a
journalist? Is your persona here your full measure? Your military service?
And what of your occasional employer, Mr. Campbell? What are his verifiable
bona fides? What is his measure? I suspect that the answer to the question
about yourself would be much different than what you seem to expect from
Chuck and all those who detest Mr. Campbell. You decide what you wish to be
remembered for.

Red

"Juan..E..Jimenez" b*d&5^@-*b(d)5+.!c#o$m wrote in message
news:kXuyb.374171$Fm2.375513@attbi_s04...
Wishful thinking.

Still waiting for the Chukster to show proof to go along with his big
mouth.
Until then there's very little of interest in the newsgroup.

Oh, and the BBQ is ready for the ducks. But since we know that the
Chukster
is about nothing but hot air...

"red12049" wrote in message
...
Find it interesting that Juan has gone missing from here for weeks
now....
Thought maybe my "Journalists' Credo" message had something to do with
it,
but probably its' your ducks....




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"red12049" wrote in message
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Juan,

I give up..... You ask for "proof" for some inconsequential matter....

Let me make this crystal clear for you, whomever you happen to be. I don't
care what you think is or is not inconsequential, or what your overactive
imagination churns up as a very, very lame comeback. Nor do I care what you
think is the measure of anyone, let alone me. You think the whining little
children who make up the RAH Gaggle are of any consequence? You think what
they think of me, or of Jim Campbell, or of anyone else, is of any
consequence? On what reality? Better yet, on what planet? chuckle

What really gets the gaggle is that no matter how hard they try, ANN
continues to grow and grow and grow... and become more and more and more
successful.

That makes the gaggle furious, and they stomp their feet, and they whine
like stuck pigs, and they scream like little monkeys...

....and nothing they do, or will do, or can do, works. In the end, whom do
you think will be remembered, period? The whining boys of the gaggle? Or the
people who work so hard to bring so much information and news to the
aviation world? I'll give you one guess.

Got it?

Good! Have a nice day.

In article qZwyb.268461$275.961167@attbi_s53, b*d&5^@-*bd5+.!c#o$m
says...



snipped usual garbage


What really gets the gaggle is that no matter how hard they try, ANN
continues to grow and grow and grow... and become more and more and mo
re
successful.


Does that mean that Mooz can finally pay off the judgement that his old
lawyer has?

Maybe he can now pay for articles in the rag? Sure would be better
than just reprinting crap off the news wire or filling up space with
TFR reprints.

In article ,
(sleepy6) writes:



What really gets the gaggle is that no matter how hard they try, ANN
continues to grow and grow and grow... and become more and more and mo
re
successful.


Does that mean that Mooz can finally pay off the judgement that his old
lawyer has?

Maybe he can now pay for articles in the rag? Sure would be better
than just reprinting crap off the news wire or filling up space with
TFR reprints.



I wonder if the IRS knows how successful he has become and that he can now pay
all those back taxes he owes. Maybe they should be told along with all his
creditors who were never paid. How about all the subscribers to the USAviator
who never got their refunds or magazines?


Bob Reed
www.kisbuild.r-a-reed-assoc.com (KIS Builders Site)
KIS Cruiser in progress...Slow but steady progress....

"Ladies and Gentlemen, take my advice,
pull down your pants and Slide on the Ice!"
(M.A.S.H. Sidney Freedman)

Juan,

Funny you should say what you did..... Indirectly, ANN is why I am here.
You are right... we don't amount to anything in anyones life but those we
touch directly. and you are right again... ANN WILL be
remembered.....unfortunately probably not in the way you seem to
indicate..... I ended up reading RAH because, after reading ANN for awhile,
I came to the conclusion that it violated everything I knew about good
journalism, and I decided to do a little background reading about its'
writers. I never had the pleasure of knowing Tony Pucillo, but in my
research I found a post he made back in the mid nineties about why ANN could
never work (I believe back then it was Jims' print magazine), no matter WHO
was running it, let alone soneone with Mr. Campbells' problems. Tony was
right then, and still is. You are right Juan, it doesn't matter what we
think. It will matter what YOU ultimately think, and those close to and
important to you. You figure out what you would like.

Red

"Juan..E..Jimenez" b*d&5^@-*b(d)5+.!c#o$m wrote in message
news:qZwyb.268461$275.961167@attbi_s53...

"red12049" wrote in message
...
Juan,

I give up..... You ask for "proof" for some inconsequential matter....

Let me make this crystal clear for you, whomever you happen to be. I don't
care what you think is or is not inconsequential, or what your overactive
imagination churns up as a very, very lame comeback. Nor do I care what
you
think is the measure of anyone, let alone me. You think the whining little
children who make up the RAH Gaggle are of any consequence? You think what
they think of me, or of Jim Campbell, or of anyone else, is of any
consequence? On what reality? Better yet, on what planet? chuckle

What really gets the gaggle is that no matter how hard they try, ANN
continues to grow and grow and grow... and become more and more and more
successful.

That makes the gaggle furious, and they stomp their feet, and they whine
like stuck pigs, and they scream like little monkeys...

...and nothing they do, or will do, or can do, works. In the end, whom do
you think will be remembered, period? The whining boys of the gaggle? Or
the
people who work so hard to bring so much information and news to the
aviation world? I'll give you one guess.

Got it?

Good! Have a nice day.





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From: "Juan..E..Jimenez" b*d&5^@-*b(d)5+.!c#o$m

Juan,

I give up..... You ask for "proof" for some inconsequential matter....

Let me make this crystal clear for you, whomever you happen to be. I don't
care what you think is or is not inconsequential, or what your overactive
imagination churns up as a very, very lame comeback. Nor do I care what you
think is the measure of anyone, let alone me. You think the whining little
children who make up the RAH Gaggle are of any consequence? You think what
they think of me, or of Jim Campbell, or of anyone else, is of any
consequence? On what reality? Better yet, on what planet? chuckle

What really gets the gaggle is that no matter how hard they try, ANN
continues to grow and grow and grow... and become more and more and more
successful.

Etc..etc..etc.

Juan, you pressed for proof about Chuck's truck for some reason I will never
understand. You demand all kinds of information from him, yet refuse to provide
the equivillent when asked in return.

Personally I couldn't care less about ANN or any other magazine. You are a
bully, and like any other bully, you are a coward who incapable of admitting
fault. You are also incapable of trying to find a middle ground. I have learned
all this by watching your ungentlemanly behaviour in this NG.I have seen zero
integrity on your part. You have made no attempt at adult debate.

If, as Chuck and others have contended, you wind up getting slammed in court
you will have no one to blame but yourself.

Would I say all this to your face? Come on over and find out.

Have you flown your BD-5 yet or moved to PR as you gave as a reason for selling
it?

Dan, U.S. Air Force, retired