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PowerFlarm for Rent/Loan for Elmira, U.S.A.?



 
 
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Old July 2nd 15, 05:54 AM posted to rec.aviation.soaring
Ramy[_2_]
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Default PowerFlarm for Rent/Loan for Elmira, U.S.A.?

Dan, if I recall correct your Streak is running XCSoar. As such it can not be used as a flarm display. As much as I like XCSoar, it's flarm support is close to useless. I opened many enhancement requests in attempt to bring the flarm support to SeeYou level but they are not getting any attention. So you will need the small butterfly display which you should be able to find a place to put instead of your Zaon As I did. You'll also get a more reliable and accurate Mode C alerts than the Zaon provides. Sell your Zaon to cover some of your cost.

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Old July 2nd 15, 02:29 PM posted to rec.aviation.soaring
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Default PowerFlarm for Rent/Loan for Elmira, U.S.A.?

Sounds like a possibility...

On 7/1/2015 10:54 PM, Ramy wrote:
Dan, if I recall correct your Streak is running XCSoar. As such it can not be used as a flarm display. As much as I like XCSoar, it's flarm support is close to useless. I opened many enhancement requests in attempt to bring the flarm support to SeeYou level but they are not getting any attention. So you will need the small butterfly display which you should be able to find a place to put instead of your Zaon As I did. You'll also get a more reliable and accurate Mode C alerts than the Zaon provides. Sell your Zaon to cover some of your cost.

Ramy


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Old July 2nd 15, 03:29 PM posted to rec.aviation.soaring
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Default PowerFlarm for Rent/Loan for Elmira, U.S.A.?

Dan, I've managed to cram in a useful PF setup in my LS6 (small panel), if that helps. I use the brick as my primary GPS and igc logger, driving my SN10 and Oudie2 - which both by the way have their own Flarm displays and warnings, so you could get away with the little LED flarm display. I also have a Zaon MRX and use it in our towplanes and club gliders, but the PF has the huge advantage of also showing ADS-B equipped aircraft, and they show up really well on the Oudie map (you get what you pay for ;^).

I think LK8000 shows flarm traffic? What about TopHat?

Anyway - I feel blind nowadays when I'm flying without good traffic detection - and nowadays there is really no good reason not to have it - and the combination of a Mode S xponder and a PF is about the best setup you can have (unless you can fit an APG-82 AESA radar in your glider...)

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Old July 2nd 15, 05:24 PM posted to rec.aviation.soaring
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Default PowerFlarm for Rent/Loan for Elmira, U.S.A.?

On Thursday, July 2, 2015 at 5:54:10 AM UTC+1, Ramy wrote:
Dan, if I recall correct your Streak is running XCSoar. As such it can not be used as a flarm display. As much as I like XCSoar, it's flarm support is close to useless. I opened many enhancement requests in attempt to bring the flarm support to SeeYou level but they are not getting any attention. So you will need the small butterfly display which you should be able to find a place to put instead of your Zaon As I did. You'll also get a more reliable and accurate Mode C alerts than the Zaon provides. Sell your Zaon to cover some of your cost.

Ramy


It's definitely true that XCSoar is unsuitable for use as a primary FLARM display, but this is somewhat by design. XCSoar's 'FLARM radar' was intended to complement the 'LED clock' type original FLARM displays, and warnings are intentionally left to dedicated hardware.
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Old July 4th 15, 03:28 PM posted to rec.aviation.soaring
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Indeed the XCSoar flarm functionality is mostly for situational awareness but not for collision alert. As such can not be used instead of a primary display like butterfly. There is no reason it can not be enhanced though.

Ramy
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Old July 5th 15, 08:09 AM posted to rec.aviation.soaring
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Default PowerFlarm for Rent/Loan for Elmira, U.S.A.?

On Saturday, 4 July 2015 16:28:30 UTC+2, Ramy wrote:
Indeed the XCSoar flarm functionality is mostly for situational awareness but not for collision alert. As such can not be used instead of a primary display like butterfly. There is no reason it can not be enhanced though.

Ramy


The only problem is that XCSoar runs on a wide range of hardware and operating systems so stability , reliability and performance cannot be ensured by the XCSoar developers.
Do you really want to trust your life with a system that may not work correctly in a critical situation?

I think the legal issues also dissuade the main developers from adding full support but there is nothing stopping someone else from adding the code themselves. Most of the code is already there.

Personally I prefer a dedicated FLARM display with a black background so that the FLARM traffic is clearly visible at all times with a tactical range selected. By adding FLARM traffic onto a moving map display you normally lose the high contrast because of the map background and the range/zoom may constantly be changing between cruise and thermal modes.
 




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