Any fliers?

On 28 May 2004 22:58:29 GMT, (BUFDRVR) wrote:

I'd give it a go. Got to be more comfortable than a Cessna pukebox. :-)

I thought that too...until my first Global Power sortie. 28+ hours and when we
landed they poured me out of the jet and my head and back hurt for three days.
I'm here to tell you they're no fun.....novel, but not fun. My comfort limit is
24 hours. Anything longer and I'm in pain.

Ouch. Mind you don't get DVT! Cockpit must stink after each sortie. :-) So
thats like watching all three LOTR films back to back..three times over!!
Hell, don't think I could look at instumentation for that long.

Oh well, I'll settle for a VIP guided tour of your bird next time your at
Fairford. ;-)


--
Steve.

Steve wrote:

Ouch. Mind you don't get DVT!

Our seats aren't comfortable enough so the suggestion to move around in your
seat to avoid DVT is forced upon you in the BUFF.....although thanks to Mary
and the guys and gals at Drydan, we were able to get much more comfortable seat
cushions just in time for OEF, so maybe we'll need classes on DVT avoidance?

Hell, don't think I could look at instumentation for that long.

You don't. Set the altitude hold autopilot, adjust the throttles every now and
again and look out the windows. Not much to see up there, but a sunrise over
the middle of the Pacific seen from FL330 is very neat looking.


Oh well, I'll settle for a VIP guided tour of your bird next time your at
Fairford. ;-)

Deal...now all I have to do is get back to a flying unit!


BUFDRVR

"Stay on the bomb run boys, I'm gonna get those bomb doors open if it harelips
everyone on Bear Creek"

..although thanks to Mary
and the guys and gals at Drydan, we were able to get much more comfortable
seat

I have trouble understanding what Dryden had to do with B-52 seats--care to
elaborate?

Jan Howell
Once an Edwards Human Factors Engineer

jhowell wrote:

I have trouble understanding what Dryden had to do with B-52 seats--care to
elaborate?

I was lamenting to Mary about our uncomfortable, 30+ year old seat cushions.
She informed me, that Dryden had purchased some very comfortable seat cushions
that they used on several aircraft, including the B-52B model. I got some of
the specifics from Mary, gave them to the reserves (who I knew could better
afford them) and presto....


BUFDRVR

"Stay on the bomb run boys, I'm gonna get those bomb doors open if it harelips
everyone on Bear Creek"

On 31 May 2004 02:06:19 GMT, (BUFDRVR) wrote:

Hell, don't think I could look at instumentation for that long.

You don't. Set the altitude hold autopilot, adjust the throttles every now and
again and look out the windows.

Yeah, suppose so. I'm not used to fancy things like autopilots. :-)

Not much to see up there,

Not bad though compared to the view from most office windows.

Oh well, I'll settle for a VIP guided tour of your bird next time your at
Fairford. ;-)

Deal...now all I have to do is get back to a flying unit!

Hope you get back up there soon. I haven't flown for a few years and really
miss it.


--
Steve.

On 31 May 2004 02:06:19 GMT, (BUFDRVR) wrote:

Hell, don't think I could look at instumentation for that long.

You don't. Set the altitude hold autopilot, adjust the throttles every now
and
again and look out the windows.

Yeah, suppose so. I'm not used to fancy things like autopilots. :-)

Not much to see up there,

Not bad though compared to the view from most office windows.

Oh well, I'll settle for a VIP guided tour of your bird next time your at
Fairford. ;-)

Deal...now all I have to do is get back to a flying unit!

Hope you get back up there soon. I haven't flown for a few years and really
miss it.


--
Steve.





You guys are weenies. Try flying formation with other fighters and a tanker
for 8 hours in and out of the weather overwater in a half inch thick anti
exposure suit. Backseaters learned formation and refueling really quick on
those trips. There was a way to disengage heading hold on the AP and kinda fly
formation with the rudders and throttles but it still required the the eyeballs
on the other birds and the stiff neck..

stevem8597 wrote:

You guys are weenies. Try flying formation with other fighters and a tanker
for 8 hours in and out of the weather overwater in a half inch thick anti
exposure suit.

I guess its all a matter of perspective. 30+ hours airborne is paiful, and us
bombers guys have *plenty* of night,weather air refueling. I'd imagine nearly
continuous A/Rs are a pain in the ass, but taking on 120,000 pounds at night in
the weather over the Pacific is no picnic. If the tanker can run on all its
boost pumps we can take about 6,000 pounds a minute which means 20 minutes of
contact time to take on the required on load. In my opinion, both seem
challenging.


BUFDRVR

"Stay on the bomb run boys, I'm gonna get those bomb doors open if it harelips
everyone on Bear Creek"

I guess its all a matter of perspective. 30+ hours airborne is paiful, and us
bombers guys have *plenty* of night,weather air refueling. I'd imagine nearly
continuous A/Rs are a pain in the ass, but taking on 120,000 pounds at night
in
the weather over the Pacific is no picnic. If the tanker can run on all its
boost pumps we can take about 6,000 pounds a minute which means 20 minutes of
contact time to take on the required on load. In my opinion, both seem
challenging.


I was looking at my granddads records when he flew the D at Ellsworth, and once
he had 5 refuelings without a disconnect. Seeing as that is at least 20 min
each time, seems like not a bad achievement at all

Did you know who Tony Kern was from an earlier conversation on here?


Ron
Tanker 65, C-54E (DC-4)
Silver City Tanker Base

"Ron" wrote in message
...
I guess its all a matter of perspective. 30+ hours airborne is paiful,
and us
bombers guys have *plenty* of night,weather air refueling. I'd imagine
nearly
continuous A/Rs are a pain in the ass, but taking on 120,000 pounds at
night
in
the weather over the Pacific is no picnic. If the tanker can run on all
its
boost pumps we can take about 6,000 pounds a minute which means 20
minutes of
contact time to take on the required on load. In my opinion, both seem
challenging.


I was looking at my granddads records when he flew the D at Ellsworth, and
once
he had 5 refuelings without a disconnect. Seeing as that is at least 20
min
each time, seems like not a bad achievement at all

Did you know who Tony Kern was from an earlier conversation on here?


Ron
Tanker 65, C-54E (DC-4)
Silver City Tanker Base

Tony Kern and I were instructor pilots in the Bone schoolhouse in 1991.
Last I talked to him, about 6 or so months ago, he was the head of aircraft
ops for the Forest Service. Probly why you know the name eh? :-)

JB

Ron wrote:

Did you know who Tony Kern was from an earlier conversation on here?


No. Who is he?


BUFDRVR

"Stay on the bomb run boys, I'm gonna get those bomb doors open if it harelips
everyone on Bear Creek"