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On Tuesday, July 14, 2015 at 12:59:34 PM UTC-4, Sean Fidler wrote:
Install XC Soar on an android phone. Free.

...you're done. 😀

- the end.

And, as I've stated before, not "everyone" has a Smartphone. Maybe it's a great thing for those that do, but at least 2 people in this thread don't have Smartphones.
;-)

On Tue, 14 Jul 2015 11:50:30 -0700, Charlie M. (UH & 002 owner/pilot)
wrote:

On Tuesday, July 14, 2015 at 12:59:34 PM UTC-4, Sean Fidler wrote:
Install XC Soar on an android phone. Free.

...you're done. 😀

- the end.

And, as I've stated before, not "everyone" has a Smartphone. Maybe it's
a great thing for those that do, but at least 2 people in this thread
don't have Smartphones.
;-)

Then, put XCSoar or LK8000 on a Binatone or Medion satnav (Medion S3747
is best but carries a premium - transreflective screen, big replaceable
battery). Still plenty of them on eBay.


--
martin@ | Martin Gregorie
gregorie. | Essex, UK
org |

On Tuesday, July 14, 2015 at 6:25:16 PM UTC-5, Martin Gregorie wrote:

Then, put XCSoar or LK8000 on a Binatone or Medion satnav (Medion S3747
is best but carries a premium - transreflective screen, big replaceable
battery). Still plenty of them on eBay.

But the problem is understanding how to use all the magic! Most glider drivers at my club get overwhelmed by an audio vario - you think they will spend the time to figure out a modern glide computer program?

Ha!

Kirk
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On Tuesday, July 14, 2015 at 7:25:16 PM UTC-4, Martin Gregorie wrote:
On Tue, 14 Jul 2015 11:50:30 -0700, Charlie M. (UH & 002 owner/pilot)
wrote:

On Tuesday, July 14, 2015 at 12:59:34 PM UTC-4, Sean Fidler wrote:
Install XC Soar on an android phone. Free.

...you're done. 😀

- the end.

And, as I've stated before, not "everyone" has a Smartphone. Maybe it's
a great thing for those that do, but at least 2 people in this thread
don't have Smartphones.
;-)

Then, put XCSoar or LK8000 on a Binatone or Medion satnav (Medion S3747
is best but carries a premium - transreflective screen, big replaceable
battery). Still plenty of them on eBay.


--
martin@ | Martin Gregorie
gregorie. | Essex, UK
org |

He flies with Clearnav in the '28 or in the '29. Just doesn't use a smartphone.
UH

On Tuesday, July 14, 2015 at 7:52:39 PM UTC-4, wrote:
On Tuesday, July 14, 2015 at 7:25:16 PM UTC-4, Martin Gregorie wrote:
On Tue, 14 Jul 2015 11:50:30 -0700, Charlie M. (UH & 002 owner/pilot)
wrote:

On Tuesday, July 14, 2015 at 12:59:34 PM UTC-4, Sean Fidler wrote:
Install XC Soar on an android phone. Free.

...you're done. 😀

- the end.

And, as I've stated before, not "everyone" has a Smartphone. Maybe it's
a great thing for those that do, but at least 2 people in this thread
don't have Smartphones.
;-)

Then, put XCSoar or LK8000 on a Binatone or Medion satnav (Medion S3747
is best but carries a premium - transreflective screen, big replaceable
battery). Still plenty of them on eBay.


--
martin@ | Martin Gregorie
gregorie. | Essex, UK
org |

He flies with Clearnav in the '28 or in the '29. Just doesn't use a smartphone.
UH

What he said.......

Still, if I had to do it on my own, I still don't have a Smartphone. Nor do a lot of others.

As stated before, if you have it & it works, great.
I started cross country with an audio vario, film cameras & a paper map with "prayer wheel".

Solution: (drumroll......) Get a smartphone (used on eBay). Tadaaaah!

This conversation is akin to saying I want to go bicycle riding...but don't want to buy a bike???? XCSoar software is (of course)free. A used android smartphone is $50-$250 bucks.

http://pages.ebay.com/link/?nav=item...alID=EB AY-US

"You can lead a horse to the water but can't make it drink..."

A fully functional, outstanding soaring flight computer for $125. Nice phone too if you can bear to bring yourself into the 21st century.

Complaining about flight computers, books and manuals with this kind of high performance and extremely low cost solution available is unnecessary. All you really get with a $6000 spend on the "fancy stuff" is a brighter in panel display, airspeed and temp integration (wind, higher accuracy) and stick controllers. You can always mount the smart phone on the panel with industrial Velcro or a accessory mount...

Take a look at the Nexus 7 WiFi - less that 100 bucks - great in sun light - running XCSOAR (I actually run TopHat by Rob Dunning - a new interface for XCSOAR - which makes the display and loading the site files simple even better)

you will not be disappointed and you can reach out to a bunch of people to ask questions. It is an powerful setup - and take 10 minutes form install to using it in your glider, promise

WH1

To Sean and the others~
I wish you would quit pushing smart phones on us. I spent all my money on an ASW-28, and iPad, plus clear nav. I have two dogs in obedience school, my mother only gives me a little allowance. I thought you were smart enough to know that all flight technology should be adjusted downward for the most fixed thinker in the group. How dare you suggest the ubiquitous smartphone and free software! You have devalued the resale of my JSW wiz wheel and made flying less safe for all pilots in the east as i am so ****ed off I cannot even see straight!
I dod not use eBay, so there is no way for me to purchase a smart phone. I only use Facebook during a contest, please please let's stop this non-sence.

On Thursday, July 16, 2015 at 5:23:25 AM UTC-7, Sean Fidler wrote:
Solution: (drumroll......) Get a smartphone (used on eBay). Tadaaaah!

This conversation is akin to saying I want to go bicycle riding...but don't want to buy a bike???? XCSoar software is (of course)free. A used android smartphone is $50-$250 bucks.

http://pages.ebay.com/link/?nav=item...alID=EB AY-US

"You can lead a horse to the water but can't make it drink..."

A fully functional, outstanding soaring flight computer for $125. Nice phone too if you can bear to bring yourself into the 21st century.

Complaining about flight computers, books and manuals with this kind of high performance and extremely low cost solution available is unnecessary. All you really get with a $6000 spend on the "fancy stuff" is a brighter in panel display, airspeed and temp integration (wind, higher accuracy) and stick controllers. You can always mount the smart phone on the panel with industrial Velcro or a accessory mount...

Now that is funny. Years ago before I left soaring and the news group ("I am back") there was a poster that went by the handle "Soarpoint" and he was a gifted writer who understood satire. Not sure what happened to him but he did write a few entertaining posts.

On Thursday, July 16, 2015 at 12:24:48 PM UTC-7, wrote:
To Sean and the others~
I wish you would quit pushing smart phones on us. I spent all my money on an ASW-28, and iPad, plus clear nav. I have two dogs in obedience school, my mother only gives me a little allowance. I thought you were smart enough to know that all flight technology should be adjusted downward for the most fixed thinker in the group. How dare you suggest the ubiquitous smartphone and free software! You have devalued the resale of my JSW wiz wheel and made flying less safe for all pilots in the east as i am so ****ed off I cannot even see straight!
I dod not use eBay, so there is no way for me to purchase a smart phone. I only use Facebook during a contest, please please let's stop this non-sence.

On Thursday, July 16, 2015 at 5:23:25 AM UTC-7, Sean Fidler wrote:
Solution: (drumroll......) Get a smartphone (used on eBay). Tadaaaah!

This conversation is akin to saying I want to go bicycle riding...but don't want to buy a bike???? XCSoar software is (of course)free. A used android smartphone is $50-$250 bucks.

http://pages.ebay.com/link/?nav=item...alID=EB AY-US

"You can lead a horse to the water but can't make it drink..."

A fully functional, outstanding soaring flight computer for $125. Nice phone too if you can bear to bring yourself into the 21st century.

Complaining about flight computers, books and manuals with this kind of high performance and extremely low cost solution available is unnecessary. All you really get with a $6000 spend on the "fancy stuff" is a brighter in panel display, airspeed and temp integration (wind, higher accuracy) and stick controllers. You can always mount the smart phone on the panel with industrial Velcro or a accessory mount...

On Thursday, July 16, 2015 at 8:23:25 AM UTC-4, Sean Fidler wrote:
Solution: (drumroll......) Get a smartphone (used on eBay). Tadaaaah!

This conversation is akin to saying I want to go bicycle riding...but don't want to buy a bike???? XCSoar software is (of course)free. A used android smartphone is $50-$250 bucks.

http://pages.ebay.com/link/?nav=item...alID=EB AY-US

"You can lead a horse to the water but can't make it drink..."

A fully functional, outstanding soaring flight computer for $125. Nice phone too if you can bear to bring yourself into the 21st century.

Complaining about flight computers, books and manuals with this kind of high performance and extremely low cost solution available is unnecessary. All you really get with a $6000 spend on the "fancy stuff" is a brighter in panel display, airspeed and temp integration (wind, higher accuracy) and stick controllers. You can always mount the smart phone on the panel with industrial Velcro or a accessory mount...

Hi Sean,

Not trying to start anything.

In this thread & others (sorta related to the same vein..... "Get a Smartphone" with comments from you & others...), I guess I didn't understand the comment was, "Buy a used Smartphone for cheap, then use it as a display..... not to use it as a phone and pay for a dataplan".

Maybe it's "Exceedingly obvious" to you & others that made the same comment, but it wasn't obvious to me.... possibly others.

Not disagreeing, just commenting that maybe a few more words like, "Buy an outdated Smartphone and use it as a display with free soaring software for your glide computing needs" would limit/eliminate questions/issues.

I am NOT in a position to buy 4 Smartphones, get dataplans and THEN use my phone as a glide computer interface, but that is sorta what I gathered from comments in a number of threads.

Do you see my view?

Regardless, someone I know (that uses these threads) mentioned what you & others were likely driving at, I had not considered that as an alternate. Sorta makes sense.

Carry on.
Have a nice day.