General Zinni on Sixty Minutes

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(WalterM140) wrote:

If we had to incur 5,000 casualties in the war on terror, they should
not have been incurred in Iraq.

Well, besides the fact that it's been one of the big financial and
logistical supporters of worldwide terror for a long, long time, and
since it's right in the middle of a bunch of other countries that are
currently in the same nasty business, and since the secondary effects of
kicking out Saddam are really bloody obvious (Libya's change of heart
and the lack of Iraqi funds for Hamas are the two most glaring
examples)...

I don't know why you can't get that.

Because you're just wrong.

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Slam on brakes accordingly.

If we had to incur 5,000 casualties in the war on terror, they should
not have been incurred in Iraq.

Well, besides the fact that it's been one of the big financial and
logistical supporters of worldwide terror for a long, long time,

Source?


and
since it's right in the middle of a bunch of other countries that are
currently in the same nasty business, and since the secondary effects of
kicking out Saddam are really bloody obvious (Libya's change of heart
and the lack of Iraqi funds for Hamas are the two most glaring
examples)...

I don't know why you can't get that.

Because you're just wrong.


I don't know that just because you say it.

Many senior oficials are on the record saying something different from what you
say.

General Zinni:

"But he wasn’t the only former military leader with doubts about the invasion
of Iraq. Former General and National Security Advisor Brent Scowcroft, former
Centcom Commander Norman Schwarzkopf, former NATO Commander Wesley Clark, and
former Army Chief of Staff Eric Shinseki all voiced their reservations.

Zinni believes this was a war the generals didn’t want - but it was a war the
civilians wanted.

“I can't speak for all generals, certainly. But I know we felt that this
situation was contained. Saddam was effectively contained. The no-fly, no-drive
zones. The sanctions that were imposed on him,� says Zinni."


Those 5,000 casualties are unnecessary.

Walt

In article ,
(WalterM140) wrote:

If we had to incur 5,000 casualties in the war on terror, they should
not have been incurred in Iraq.

Well, besides the fact that it's been one of the big financial and
logistical supporters of worldwide terror for a long, long time,

Source?

Saddam Hussein. He used to take loud personal credit for his support of
terror groups like Hamas (giving cash to families of people who sent
kids off to be suicide bombers) and sheltering (for example) one of the
fugitives from the first WTC attack.

Since you claim that you don't know this, you are so completely
uneducated on the subject you should just stop posting on it right now.

--
cirby at cfl.rr.com

Remember: Objects in rearview mirror may be hallucinations.
Slam on brakes accordingly.

If we had to incur 5,000 casualties in the war on terror, they should
not have been incurred in Iraq.

Well, besides the fact that it's been one of the big financial and
logistical supporters of worldwide terror for a long, long time,

Source?

Saddam Hussein.

Quotes? You're edging up on something, but I don't know what.

He used to take loud personal credit for his support of
terror groups like Hamas (giving cash to families of people who sent
kids off to be suicide bombers) and sheltering (for example) one of the
fugitives from the first WTC attack.

Whatever Saddam did or said, wiser heads than yours have said the invasion of
Iraq was unncessary. You might could gainsay those wiser heads, but you
haven't done it yet.

Walt

In article ,
(WalterM140) wrote:



Zinni believes this was a war the generals didn’t want - but it was a
war the
civilians wanted.

“I can't speak for all generals, certainly. But I know we felt that
this
situation was contained. Saddam was effectively contained. The no-fly,
no-drive
zones. The sanctions that were imposed on him,� says Zinni."

I have been unable to avoid paraphrasing this, but I fear I must do it
to stop it bouncing around my skull.

"General Zinni said that he generally avoids generalizations about the
general belief of all generals, but, in this case, he believes the
general consensus of generals is that the general policy of containment
was, in general, effective."

"General Zinni said that he generally avoids generalizations about the
general belief of all generals, but, in this case, he believes the
general consensus of generals is that the general policy of containment
was, in general, effective."


That's generally true. His lieutenants have called the invasion a major
mistake. The Bush administration needs corporal punishment.

Walt

Subject: General Zinni on Sixty Minutes
From: (WalterM140)
Date: 6/2/04 3:14 AM Pacific Daylight Time
Message-id:

"General Zinni said that he generally avoids generalizations about the
general belief of all generals, but, in this case, he believes the
general consensus of generals is that the general policy of containment
was, in general, effective."


That's generally true. His lieutenants have called the invasion a major
mistake. The Bush administration needs corporal punishment.

Walt


They will get it in November.



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They will get it in November.


Bush will be reelected.