General Zinni on Sixty Minutes

Conveniently overlooking the recent Sarin discovery in Iraq

I am sure we wont be overlooking when somebody discovers ex-Bulgarian Scuds
with chemical warheads on right time.
(Saddam never received any Scuds from Bulgaria,but it is only a small detail)

A brief review of Samuel Huntington's "Clash of Civilizations" might
be in order.

Samuel Huntingtons ties to some semi-secret but very powerful societies explain
why he wrote that book.
The motto of this organization is
"Ordo Ab Chao"


This organisation is actually aganist ALL major religions fights for centuries
to destroy every religion and replace them with Paganism.
The fight between major religions is an excellent tool realize their final
goal.


resence of Al-Zawaheri at the beheading of Nick Berg.

Who is Mr.Al-Whatever?

ings like "why Iraq" or "the 9/11 perps were all Saudi" ignores the

Everbody who thinks that 9/11 was not a domestic vaccination operation ignores
works and findings of the Office of Net Assesment and the existence of an
organization in US with more executive powers than US President !.
(The name of this organization is NOT FBI or CIA)

You are totally wrong.
According to the findings of Marshall&Co paradigm shift in warfare and
predicted natural disasters (some of them with the help of HPM weapons of
course) could create a chaos situation in US that could not be controlled by
existing (pre-9/11) structures.
So,the country needed more military like structures and organizations in other
words US needed more military style discipline and less liberalism.

How could you implement neccesary changes?
1)You tell everything to the public and call for their support.
(But if you do that the chaos predicted to take place 15-20 later might start
tomorrow,so not a good idea)

2)You create an imaginary enemy and implement all neccesary measures that you
will need to face challenges of next decade and after,under pretext of fighting
an (imaginary) enemy.

US will be a much more militaristic and disciplined society in near and medium
term future,but the President still be a civilian.
But US citizens wont be able to elect their presidents in foreseable future,as
all Presidents in foreseable future will be "selected" not "elected".

Conveniently overlooking the recent Sarin discovery in Iraq and the
presence of Al-Zawaheri at the beheading of Nick Berg.

Are you serious?

That's -one- round in -one- year. It's a non-story.

And there is no proof Al-Zawaheri was there. It was reported a few days ago
that 2 of the perps of Berg's murder had been captured. That story dropped out
of sight. I wonder why?

Walt

In article ,
(WalterM140) wrote:

Conveniently overlooking the recent Sarin discovery in Iraq and the
presence of Al-Zawaheri at the beheading of Nick Berg.

Are you serious?

That's -one- round in -one- year. It's a non-story.

....out of the millions of rounds to go through, versus the number that
have been set off, it's a *huge* story. Struck by lightning or needle
in the haystack time.

Especially since it's of a type that, according to the inspectors,
wasn't supposed to exist at all outside of a terminated research program.

So the folks who told us it didn't exist in the first place are now
telling us that even though it *does* exist, it's not a problem. And
when more turn up, you'll tell us that they aren't problems either...

--
cirby at cfl.rr.com

Remember: Objects in rearview mirror may be hallucinations.
Slam on brakes accordingly.

ArtKramr wrote:
Subject: General Zinni on Sixty Minutes
From: "Kevin Brooks"
Date: 6/1/04 1:34 AM Pacific Daylight Time
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"ArtKramr" wrote in message
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Subject: General Zinni on Sixty Minutes
From: "Vaughn"
Date: 5/31/04 6:02 PM Pacific Daylight Time
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"Steven P. McNicoll" wrote in message
thlink.net...

"Vaughn" wrote in message
...

This from the guy who thinks we went to Iraq to fight

terrorists?

Informed people understand we're fighting terrorists in Iraq.

I will concede that we may actually be fighting a few terrorists in

Iraq

now, but they are likely foreign "true believers" who have gravitated to

Iraq

because our guys are there (and have perhaps by now managed some local
recruiting). There was very little documented international terrorism
activity
in Iraq before we invaded, certainly less than in certain other Arab
countries.
Don't forget; Iraq was a comparatively secular society. We have now

thrown

open
the gates for the religious crazies to come in to Iraq and do their work.

I still haven't figured out what Iraq is all about, but it wasn't

9-11

and
it has little or nothing to do with terrorism. Perhaps it was supposed

to

have
something to do with assuring Bush's second term (thus "mission
accomplished"),
but today it seems more likely to have the opposite effect.

Vaughn


Lrt's review the bidding. All the 9/11 terrorists were Saudis. So we

invaded

Iraq. Makes sense to me. (sheesh)

Then why were you one of the louder "Yeah, let's do it!" and "Screw the
French for not supporting us" types a year ago?

Brooks



Arthur Kramer


Who knew we were being lied to about WMD? We never should have believed that
bum and his neocon liars..

It's not clear to me that they were lying, though they are certainly
capable of it. Iraq is a classic case of what Barbara Tuchman
characterized as "woodenheadedness."

Cheers

--mike



Arthur Kramer
344th BG 494th BS
England, France, Belgium, Holland, Germany
Visit my WW II B-26 website at:
http://www.coastcomp.com/artkramer

Subject: General Zinni on Sixty Minutes
From: Mike Dargan
Date: 6/1/04 3:28 PM Pacific Daylight Time
Message-id: mq7vc.28861$IB.2083@attbi_s04

ArtKramr wrote:
Subject: General Zinni on Sixty Minutes
From: "Kevin Brooks"
Date: 6/1/04 1:34 AM Pacific Daylight Time
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"ArtKramr" wrote in message
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Subject: General Zinni on Sixty Minutes
From: "Vaughn"
Date: 5/31/04 6:02 PM Pacific Daylight Time
Message-id:


"Steven P. McNicoll" wrote in message
rthlink.net...

"Vaughn" wrote in message
...

This from the guy who thinks we went to Iraq to fight

terrorists?

Informed people understand we're fighting terrorists in Iraq.

I will concede that we may actually be fighting a few terrorists in

Iraq

now, but they are likely foreign "true believers" who have gravitated to

Iraq

because our guys are there (and have perhaps by now managed some local
recruiting). There was very little documented international terrorism
activity
in Iraq before we invaded, certainly less than in certain other Arab
countries.
Don't forget; Iraq was a comparatively secular society. We have now

thrown

open
the gates for the religious crazies to come in to Iraq and do their work.

I still haven't figured out what Iraq is all about, but it wasn't

9-11

and
it has little or nothing to do with terrorism. Perhaps it was supposed

to

have
something to do with assuring Bush's second term (thus "mission
accomplished"),
but today it seems more likely to have the opposite effect.

Vaughn


Lrt's review the bidding. All the 9/11 terrorists were Saudis. So we

invaded

Iraq. Makes sense to me. (sheesh)

Then why were you one of the louder "Yeah, let's do it!" and "Screw the
French for not supporting us" types a year ago?

Brooks



Arthur Kramer


Who knew we were being lied to about WMD? We never should have believed
that
bum and his neocon liars..

It's not clear to me that they were lying, though they are certainly
capable of it. Iraq is a classic case of what Barbara Tuchman
characterized as "woodenheadedness."

Cheers

--mike



Arthur Kramer
344th BG 494th BS
England, France, Belgium, Holland, Germany
Visit my WW II B-26 website at:
http://www.coastcomp.com/artkramer


And Tuchman was one of the great ones. They don't make historians like that
anymore. (sigh)


Arthur Kramer
344th BG 494th BS
England, France, Belgium, Holland, Germany
Visit my WW II B-26 website at:
http://www.coastcomp.com/artkramer