Can't buy them all, choosing between ASW19 vs LS1 vs PIK20

So far I have seen the LS-1 and the ASW-19. Both are nice ships, the finish on the LS-1 is better because it was painted over, so it does not have this old gelcoat feel that the other ship shows. My current preference would be for the ASW-19 if I only considered size of the cockpit and ease to get parts, but I love that LS-1, it seems to have been very well taken care off by it previous owners.

Also I have heard lots of diverging opinions about PIK-20s, some negative about the fact that apparently Centrair is now providing parts for it, or was it wrong information? Is there some painful ADs coming up on those, or some issue with the maintenance, getting parts or what else is going on?

Again, many thanks to all the participants in this thread for your inputs.

On Monday, October 26, 2015 at 9:28:15 AM UTC-4, PAGA wrote:
So far I have seen the LS-1 and the ASW-19. Both are nice ships, the finish on the LS-1 is better because it was painted over, so it does not have this old gelcoat feel that the other ship shows. My current preference would be for the ASW-19 if I only considered size of the cockpit and ease to get parts, but I love that LS-1, it seems to have been very well taken care off by it previous owners.

Also I have heard lots of diverging opinions about PIK-20s, some negative about the fact that apparently Centrair is now providing parts for it, or was it wrong information? Is there some painful ADs coming up on those, or some issue with the maintenance, getting parts or what else is going on?

Again, many thanks to all the participants in this thread for your inputs..

I've owned a PIK-20B and a couple 19's. I enjoyed and LS-1F when I flew it in the WGC.
LS flew very well. Factory support is quite good and responsive, but expensive with the owner tax. Of the 3, the LS gliders are the hardest to reliably and safely hook up controls.
PIK is very durable and strong with very good( under appreciated) performance. If it is flaps only, it is more of an effort to learn to land well, but will land very short at low energy. There is almost no support and not a lots of current knowledge on maintenance and repair with respect to materials. Forget Centrair- they are useless.
'19 is easy to fly, performs very well. Parts and support are readily available.
It is easy to sell if you decide to move up. It would be my first choice.
Good luck
UH

ASW19 best bet, still supported and pleasant and easy to fly. PIK20 best
performance when clean and dry but performance deteriorates very badly with
rain or bugs on leading edge.

At 14:56 26 October 2015, wrote:
On Monday, October 26, 2015 at 9:28:15 AM UTC-4, PAGA wrote:
So far I have seen the LS-1 and the ASW-19. Both are nice ships, the
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ish on the LS-1 is better because it was painted over, so it does not
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this old gelcoat feel that the other ship shows. My current preference
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et parts, but I love that LS-1, it seems to have been very well taken
care
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off by it previous owners.
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Also I have heard lots of diverging opinions about PIK-20s, some
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about the fact that apparently Centrair is now providing parts for it,
or
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was it wrong information? Is there some painful ADs coming up on those,
or
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some issue with the maintenance, getting parts or what else is going on?
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Again, many thanks to all the participants in this thread for your
inputs=
..

I've owned a PIK-20B and a couple 19's. I enjoyed and LS-1F when I flew
it
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in the WGC.
LS flew very well. Factory support is quite good and responsive, but
expens=
ive with the owner tax. Of the 3, the LS gliders are the hardest to
reliabl=
y and safely hook up controls.
PIK is very durable and strong with very good( under appreciated)
performan=
ce. If it is flaps only, it is more of an effort to learn to land well,
but=
will land very short at low energy. There is almost no support and not
a
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lots of current knowledge on maintenance and repair with respect to
materia=
ls. Forget Centrair- they are useless.
'19 is easy to fly, performs very well. Parts and support are readily
avail=
able.
It is easy to sell if you decide to move up. It would be my first choice.
Good luck
UH