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Old June 2nd 04, 12:39 AM
Chad Irby
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"Paul J. Adam" wrote:

In message , Chad Irby
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They supposedly only did "research" on binary sarin rounds, and that
*after* 1991.


"36. However, it was not possible to verify the full extent of several
R& D projects carried out by Iraq from 1989 to 1990, due to the absence
of sufficient data from documents and other verifiable evidence. Those
include the research on new chemical warfare agents, BZ and Soman. These
also include Iraq's efforts to develop new delivery means for CW-agents,
such as special warheads other than for Al-Hussein missiles, i.e. FROG
missile, and real binary artillery munitions and aerial bombs. Evidence
of such studies was found in the documents from the Haider farm. On the
other hand, the Commission did not find evidence that Iraq had reached
the stage of industrial production of these materials and items.

http://cns.miis.edu/research/iraq/ucreport/dis_chem.htm is the first
source to hand.


So we found one of your production rounds. 155mm sarin. Thanks.

The UN inspectors screwed up. What a shock, coming from the same folks
who told us that Libya didn't have a nuke program, and that Iran doesn't
have one (while the Iranians admit they do to everyone *except* the UN
inspectors)...

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Old June 2nd 04, 03:09 AM
Howard Berkowitz
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In article , Chad Irby
wrote:

In article ,
"Paul J. Adam" wrote:

In message , Chad Irby
writes

They supposedly only did "research" on binary sarin rounds, and that
*after* 1991.


"36. However, it was not possible to verify the full extent of several
R& D projects carried out by Iraq from 1989 to 1990, due to the absence
of sufficient data from documents and other verifiable evidence. Those
include the research on new chemical warfare agents, BZ and Soman.
These
also include Iraq's efforts to develop new delivery means for
CW-agents,
such as special warheads other than for Al-Hussein missiles, i.e. FROG
missile, and real binary artillery munitions and aerial bombs. Evidence
of such studies was found in the documents from the Haider farm. On the
other hand, the Commission did not find evidence that Iraq had reached
the stage of industrial production of these materials and items.

http://cns.miis.edu/research/iraq/ucreport/dis_chem.htm is the first
source to hand.


So we found one of your production rounds. 155mm sarin. Thanks.


How do you know, one way or the other, that round was production or a
shop-made prototype?


The UN inspectors screwed up.


If it was a prototype, they might not have. Are you sure you aren't
stretching the limited data to assume incompetent inspectors? I can
generalize too -- I know one person who was on the UNSCOM team, and
since Jack is thoroughly competent, everyone must be, right?

Given a bunch of chemically hazardous fragments, the technical
intelligence people aren't going to have a complete analysis of this
round overnight.

What a shock, coming from the same folks
who told us that Libya didn't have a nuke program, and that Iran doesn't
have one (while the Iranians admit they do to everyone *except* the UN
inspectors)...

 




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