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Can't buy them all, choosing between ASW19 vs LS1 vs PIK20



 
 
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Old November 9th 15, 04:11 PM posted to rec.aviation.soaring
Dan Marotta
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Default Can't buy them all, choosing between ASW19 vs LS1 vs PIK20

You are correct about pricing, of course, but I wouldn't expect to see
many ADs or service bulletins for ships whose manufacturers are no
longer around and I think a 30 year old glider is fully depreciated.
Any decent shop should be able to make repair parts, if needed. Storage
can be in your back yard (assuming you have one). I used to bring my
glider into my walk-out basement over the winter to apply all the TLC
that it deserved.

Bottom line is that the price is what the market will bear regardless of
what the seller paid unless it's really priced for quick sale.

On 11/8/2015 8:28 PM, PAGA wrote:
Yes but I have found that some sellers think the price someone should pay is equal to "how much money they put in their [beloved] ship". While it's a good thing to know they loved their glider and probably took great care of it, hoping to recover 100% of the money you put in it is plain naive and ignoring depreciation and the fact that better gliders are now available at the price they paid for their ship 5 or 7 years ago. And the ship they bought 5 years ago is now 5 years older, probably has new ADs to comply with, some cables to change, a higher probability for some unexpected maintenance, etc... Also winter is coming, someone needs to pay for storage for a few months, at least here out East :-)


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Old November 9th 15, 09:04 PM posted to rec.aviation.soaring
PAGA
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Default Can't buy them all, choosing between ASW19 vs LS1 vs PIK20

On Monday, November 9, 2015 at 11:11:56 AM UTC-5, Dan Marotta wrote:
... but I wouldn't expect to
see many ADs or service bulletins for ships whose manufacturers are
no longer around and I think a 30 year old glider is fully
depreciated.* Any decent shop should be able to make repair parts,
if needed.* Storage can be in your back yard (assuming you have
one).* ...
Dan, 5J


That's a very good point, it's like for classic cars: all you need is to know a good trustworthy local mechanic and to maintain a clean/safe storage/garage.
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Old November 30th 15, 07:49 PM posted to rec.aviation.soaring
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Default Can't buy them all, choosing between ASW19 vs LS1 vs PIK20

On Monday, November 9, 2015 at 11:11:56 AM UTC-5, Dan Marotta wrote:
I wouldn't expect to see many ADs or service bulletins for ships whose manufacturers are no longer around


and that is an advantage or disadvantage?
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Old December 1st 15, 04:55 PM posted to rec.aviation.soaring
Dan Marotta
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Default Can't buy them all, choosing between ASW19 vs LS1 vs PIK20

Dif'rent strokes for dif'rent folks.

Consider that the aircraft was found to be acceptable to the approving
authority at the time of its creation and was still considered airworthy
when the manufacturer faded into history. At some point the owner has
to decide if he is comfortable flying the aircraft. The owner of the
hangar where I keep my glider is restoring a 65-year old airplane. From
my observation it will be better than original. So what if there's no
manufacturer to tell him that it's safe to fly? He will make that
decision himself and will present it to an inspector for an
airworthiness certificate. I have no doubt it will be approved. It
will be up to him thereafter (and to subsequent owners) to decide that
the aircraft is safe to operate.

And, to your original question, I consider it an advantage.

Cheers!
Dan

On 11/30/2015 12:49 PM, son_of_flubber wrote:
On Monday, November 9, 2015 at 11:11:56 AM UTC-5, Dan Marotta wrote:
I wouldn't expect to see many ADs or service bulletins for ships whose manufacturers are no longer around

and that is an advantage or disadvantage?


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