America's Army Sucks, Fact

On Wed, 02 Jun 2004 12:43:09 -0500,
Alan Minyard wrote:
On 31 May 2004 16:01:19 GMT, Alistair Gunn wrote:

The reason the Argentines came in low was Sea Dart, and the reason they
knew to come in at low to beat Sea Dart[1] was because they had two Type
42s of their own. However it's only prudent to assume that it if someone
sells you military kit that the version they sell you isn't as good as
the one they use themselves, so they might have been concerned that a
pop-up attack would have left them fatally exposed to Sea Dart[2]?

[1] Though I believe they was a successful engagement with Sea Dart
against a target at 50 feet?
[2] Though, IRIC, the Type 42s (and HMS Bristol) where never deployed
into San Carlos Water.

I have often wondered why the Brits did not use manpads. Were they
unavailable?


they had blowpipe as their manpad. it was not very useful against fast
movers and IIRC press reports were not very flattering about its
performance.

www.naval-history.net/F64argaircraftlost.htm has a list of argentine
aircraft losses.

On Wed, 02 Jun 2004 18:06:01 GMT, walt moffett
wrote:

On Wed, 02 Jun 2004 12:43:09 -0500,
Alan Minyard wrote:
On 31 May 2004 16:01:19 GMT, Alistair Gunn wrote:

The reason the Argentines came in low was Sea Dart, and the reason they
knew to come in at low to beat Sea Dart[1] was because they had two Type
42s of their own. However it's only prudent to assume that it if someone
sells you military kit that the version they sell you isn't as good as
the one they use themselves, so they might have been concerned that a
pop-up attack would have left them fatally exposed to Sea Dart[2]?

[1] Though I believe they was a successful engagement with Sea Dart
against a target at 50 feet?
[2] Though, IRIC, the Type 42s (and HMS Bristol) where never deployed
into San Carlos Water.

I have often wondered why the Brits did not use manpads. Were they
unavailable?


they had blowpipe as their manpad. it was not very useful against fast
movers and IIRC press reports were not very flattering about its
performance.

SAS/SBS were issued with Stingers and IIRC got the first kill with a
Stinger when a Pucara flew over a patrol which had stopped to brew up
(have a cup of tea), and was promptly shot down.

Peter Kemp

In article , Peter Kemp
wrote:



SAS/SBS were issued with Stingers and IIRC got the first kill with a
Stinger when a Pucara flew over a patrol which had stopped to brew up
(have a cup of tea), and was promptly shot down.


Is brewing up first part of the firing procedure, or just well
understood?

In message , Howard
Berkowitz writes
In article , Peter Kemp
wrote:
SAS/SBS were issued with Stingers and IIRC got the first kill with a
Stinger when a Pucara flew over a patrol which had stopped to brew up
(have a cup of tea), and was promptly shot down.

Is brewing up first part of the firing procedure, or just well
understood?

It's a sacred military ritual, violation of which requires vengeance.




--
He thinks too much: such men are dangerous.
Julius Caesar I:2

Paul J. Adam MainBoxatjrwlynch[dot]demon{dot}co(.)uk

On Thu, 3 Jun 2004 00:25:19 +0100, "Paul J. Adam"
wrote:

In message , Howard
Berkowitz writes
In article , Peter Kemp
wrote:
SAS/SBS were issued with Stingers and IIRC got the first kill with a
Stinger when a Pucara flew over a patrol which had stopped to brew up
(have a cup of tea), and was promptly shot down.

Is brewing up first part of the firing procedure, or just well
understood?

It's a sacred military ritual, violation of which requires vengeance.

Exactly - some damn Argentine disturbed them while they were warming
the teapot (aka slapping a mess tin of water on a hexy burner), and
vengence had to be had immediately - the war being on was merely a
coincidence - we're just lucky they weren't on an exercise outside
Heathrow!

Peter Kemp

"Howard Berkowitz" wrote in message
...
In article , Peter Kemp
wrote:



SAS/SBS were issued with Stingers and IIRC got the first kill with a
Stinger when a Pucara flew over a patrol which had stopped to brew up
(have a cup of tea), and was promptly shot down.


Is brewing up first part of the firing procedure, or just well
understood?

Its required for all procedures in the British Army
and as such needs no special orders

Keith




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"Howard Berkowitz" wrote in message
...
In article , Peter Kemp
wrote:



SAS/SBS were issued with Stingers and IIRC got the first kill with a
Stinger when a Pucara flew over a patrol which had stopped to brew up
(have a cup of tea), and was promptly shot down.


Is brewing up first part of the firing procedure, or just well
understood?

Its required for all procedures in the British Army
and as such needs no special orders

Keith




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"Keith Willshaw" wrote in
:

Its required for all procedures in the British Army
and as such needs no special orders

Keith



Could Keith please leave the cavern, his posts are echoing. . .


Echoin. . .

Echoi. .

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Drewe
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In a citizen of the world
Than the pride that divides
When a colourful rag is unfurled"