Which 18m FES sailplane to buy?

On Saturday, December 12, 2015 at 7:58:37 AM UTC-5, Martin Gregorie wrote:

In that case its a glider-specific issue. If I simply moved the flaps
from zero to landing, my ASW-20 lost 10-15 kts 'like that', but a
simultaneous shove on the stick made the speed loss go away.

Did the guy that signed of your type transition run you through any of this? He should have...

On Saturday, December 12, 2015 at 8:15:16 AM UTC-5, Tango Eight wrote:
On Saturday, December 12, 2015 at 7:58:37 AM UTC-5, Martin Gregorie wrote:

In that case its a glider-specific issue. If I simply moved the flaps
from zero to landing, my ASW-20 lost 10-15 kts 'like that', but a
simultaneous shove on the stick made the speed loss go away.

Did the guy that signed of your type transition run you through any of this? He should have...

Inadvertent post. "Signed off", not "of".

Anyhow: with powerful flaps in most any glider or power plane one has to coordinate flap, elevator & trim. Shouldn't have been a surprise.

Evan Ludeman / T8

On Saturday, December 12, 2015 at 8:19:57 AM UTC-5, Tango Eight wrote:

Anyhow: with powerful flaps in most any glider or power plane one has to coordinate flap, elevator & trim. Shouldn't have been a surprise.

Evan Ludeman / T8

I agree, my "pre flapped glider checkout" was done in a Cessna 150. We went up to altitude and played with flap settings while observing what the pitch attitude & AS did.
After that was some cockpit time (on the ground)in a SGS-1-35, then a flight. Followed quickly by a PIK-20 & a ASW-20. The 150 was good since it had more flap deflection than a 152 and was really draggy.
We didn't have any 2 seat flapped gliders on the field (late 70's) for dual training, but I did have ~200 hours in a 1-26 along with hours in a 1-34 and others.

It worked for me, no real surprises. The ASW-20 was a bit easier, I could set the flaps (usually thermal flaps) and then fly the dive brakes "like normal" in the pattern, unlike the other 2.

On Sat, 12 Dec 2015 05:19:55 -0800, Tango Eight wrote:

Anyhow: with powerful flaps in most any glider or power plane one has to
coordinate flap, elevator & trim. Shouldn't have been a surprise.

I don't remember saying I found it a surprise. Please don't put words in
my mouth.


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