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Old December 12th 15, 08:21 PM posted to rec.aviation.soaring
Dale Watkins
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2 plus 2 still 22 ?
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Old December 13th 15, 05:45 PM posted to rec.aviation.soaring
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Looking forward to reading the "how I dunnits" and "how I shoulda dunnits" from the team.

******** to arguing about the rules. Every game has rules and is entered knowing them. People seem to accept American "football" teams standing there with a ball and watching the clock tick down to zero. It's the same thing.

Zulu Romeo, good finish.
(now you can give Attila his glider back)
Jim
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Old December 13th 15, 06:49 PM posted to rec.aviation.soaring
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On Sunday, December 13, 2015 at 11:45:07 AM UTC-6, JS wrote:
Looking forward to reading the "how I dunnits" and "how I shoulda dunnits" from the team.

******** to arguing about the rules. Every game has rules and is entered knowing them. People seem to accept American "football" teams standing there with a ball and watching the clock tick down to zero. It's the same thing..

Zulu Romeo, good finish.
(now you can give Attila his glider back)
Jim


Yep. I let out a scream of "NOOOOOO!!!!" on the last day when Boyd's tracker said he had landed out. I think based on the altitude, that he probably won the Limbo Contest that day! Or maybe it was a Monty Python moment. He landed out. But, he got better.

Well done, guys! Looking forward to hearing more about it.

Steve
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Old December 13th 15, 11:25 PM posted to rec.aviation.soaring
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Did anyone catch the track of the kid that landed short and ran across the finish line carrying his tracker? I wish there was a video.
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Old December 13th 15, 11:49 PM posted to rec.aviation.soaring
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He also landed 300m short toward the end of the contest. No running Ricky Bobby style that time though.

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Old December 14th 15, 11:34 AM posted to rec.aviation.soaring
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Hey Guys,

Thanks for all the support and enthusiasm along the way. We definitely kept track and we really appreciated it. As far as takeaways from the contest, we learned a tremendous amount and are really excited going into the future.. I am doing a write-up for the US Team and future junior pilots as far as lessons learned and what worked, etc.

This biggest implication of the US vs. FAI rules has little to do with the mechanics of starting, finishing or the like. The adjustments were easy, including doing a direct finish instead of the finish sectors we have. The biggest difference is the gaggle dynamic that exists and gets reinforced due to the point structure in place in FAI rules. We learned that it is very costly to try to outsmart the gaggle.

The Club Class Nationals at Hobbs were great practice for the Junior worlds.. The tasks seemed to be as intense and reasonably reflected the difficulty in tasking we experienced. I would definitely like to see more Nationals conducted in such a manner, with the variety of Assigned and Area tasks that we had there.

The other major takeaway is the need to practice team flying. I am now a complete convert. Team-flying can be extremely effective and we were able to fly a lot better because we did this. We were all amazed that we were able to stick together so well. Going into 2017, JP and I plan on practicing team-flying as much as we can. We would like to make informal weekend meets at Mifflin where we can fly with John Good and do ground school on tactics and strategy so that we can perform better in the upcoming Junior Worlds.

Our idea is to also expand this to other serious juniors within a reasonable radius of Mifflin and hopefully make this the basis of a consistent junior racing contingent.

Something that would be helpful to us developing skills and tactics for future world competitions is if team-flying were to be allowed at the National level. It would certainly be a great way to implement the practice we intend on doing during the off-season in a racing environment.

Best Regards,
Daniel


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Old December 14th 15, 09:52 PM posted to rec.aviation.soaring
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The other major takeaway is the need to practice team flying. I am now a complete convert. Team-flying can be extremely effective and we were able to fly a lot better because we did this. We were all amazed that we were able to stick together so well. Going into 2017, JP and I plan on practicing team-flying as much as we can. We would like to make informal weekend meets at Mifflin where we can fly with John Good and do ground school on tactics and strategy so that we can perform better in the upcoming Junior Worlds.

Our idea is to also expand this to other serious juniors within a reasonable radius of Mifflin and hopefully make this the basis of a consistent junior racing contingent.

Something that would be helpful to us developing skills and tactics for future world competitions is if team-flying were to be allowed at the National level. It would certainly be a great way to implement the practice we intend on doing during the off-season in a racing environment.



i would love to come down to mifflin with my sailplane to take part in this!
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Old December 20th 15, 03:33 PM posted to rec.aviation.soaring
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Congratulations to all participants. I'm looking forward to your next JWGC in Lithuania.
Here are some thoughtful comments about the final day by Tom Arscott. Very insightful regarding tactics and risk.
https://www.facebook.com/britishglid...72053282851635

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Old December 14th 15, 11:38 AM posted to rec.aviation.soaring
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Yep. I let out a scream of "NOOOOOO!!!!" on the last day when Boyd's tracker said he had landed out.


We certainly came close! We had some bad luck and plummeted from 6000ft AGL to 850ft without hitting any reasonable nibble. The sink was atrocious and the only reprieve was a weak little thermal over the field we were planning on landing in. All three of us, plus a straggler were parked in this little thermal, digging out. It was certainly a slow climb, but we got away and made it back home. Prior to plummeting out of the sky, we were really cooking along. If we had managed to keep the pace we were going and come back at minimum time, Boyd would have gotten third place. It was a good tactical gamble, but it did not work out.

Climbing out of that field was certainly exciting. It was the most fun low save I ever had, being in the company of three other gliders.

Best Regards,
Daniel
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Old December 14th 15, 01:58 PM posted to rec.aviation.soaring
Steve Leonard[_2_]
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On Monday, December 14, 2015 at 5:38:45 AM UTC-6, wrote:
Yep. I let out a scream of "NOOOOOO!!!!" on the last day when Boyd's tracker said he had landed out.


We certainly came close! We had some bad luck and plummeted from 6000ft AGL to 850ft without hitting any reasonable nibble. The sink was atrocious and the only reprieve was a weak little thermal over the field we were planning on landing in. All three of us, plus a straggler were parked in this little thermal, digging out. It was certainly a slow climb, but we got away and made it back home. Prior to plummeting out of the sky, we were really cooking along. If we had managed to keep the pace we were going and come back at minimum time, Boyd would have gotten third place. It was a good tactical gamble, but it did not work out.

Climbing out of that field was certainly exciting. It was the most fun low save I ever had, being in the company of three other gliders.

Best Regards,
Daniel


I noticed a lot of time on that last day with ground speeds showing 140 KPH or so, and vertical speeds of 4 to 5 M/sec down. For most everyone. And for rather extended periods of time. Glad you guys kept it together. I am sure you have heard this before, but I have been told when running crosswind, and in strong sink, immediate turn upwind.

Haven't been there or done that but it is interesting to me how at the world level, you live or die by the gaggle (or leaving it) and in the US, we hate the idea of the gaggle and the group flying and call people "leeches" for doing so. To me, this seems a far greater difference than our scoring system differences, or assigned versus AAT ratio on number of tasks, direct versus finish line or cylinder.

Thanks for the insights so far!

Steve Leonard
 




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