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Old December 13th 15, 05:45 PM posted to rec.aviation.soaring
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Looking forward to reading the "how I dunnits" and "how I shoulda dunnits" from the team.

******** to arguing about the rules. Every game has rules and is entered knowing them. People seem to accept American "football" teams standing there with a ball and watching the clock tick down to zero. It's the same thing.

Zulu Romeo, good finish.
(now you can give Attila his glider back)
Jim
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Old December 13th 15, 06:49 PM posted to rec.aviation.soaring
Steve Leonard[_2_]
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On Sunday, December 13, 2015 at 11:45:07 AM UTC-6, JS wrote:
Looking forward to reading the "how I dunnits" and "how I shoulda dunnits" from the team.

******** to arguing about the rules. Every game has rules and is entered knowing them. People seem to accept American "football" teams standing there with a ball and watching the clock tick down to zero. It's the same thing..

Zulu Romeo, good finish.
(now you can give Attila his glider back)
Jim


Yep. I let out a scream of "NOOOOOO!!!!" on the last day when Boyd's tracker said he had landed out. I think based on the altitude, that he probably won the Limbo Contest that day! Or maybe it was a Monty Python moment. He landed out. But, he got better.

Well done, guys! Looking forward to hearing more about it.

Steve
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Old December 13th 15, 11:25 PM posted to rec.aviation.soaring
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Did anyone catch the track of the kid that landed short and ran across the finish line carrying his tracker? I wish there was a video.
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Old December 13th 15, 11:49 PM posted to rec.aviation.soaring
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He also landed 300m short toward the end of the contest. No running Ricky Bobby style that time though.

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Old December 14th 15, 11:34 AM posted to rec.aviation.soaring
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Hey Guys,

Thanks for all the support and enthusiasm along the way. We definitely kept track and we really appreciated it. As far as takeaways from the contest, we learned a tremendous amount and are really excited going into the future.. I am doing a write-up for the US Team and future junior pilots as far as lessons learned and what worked, etc.

This biggest implication of the US vs. FAI rules has little to do with the mechanics of starting, finishing or the like. The adjustments were easy, including doing a direct finish instead of the finish sectors we have. The biggest difference is the gaggle dynamic that exists and gets reinforced due to the point structure in place in FAI rules. We learned that it is very costly to try to outsmart the gaggle.

The Club Class Nationals at Hobbs were great practice for the Junior worlds.. The tasks seemed to be as intense and reasonably reflected the difficulty in tasking we experienced. I would definitely like to see more Nationals conducted in such a manner, with the variety of Assigned and Area tasks that we had there.

The other major takeaway is the need to practice team flying. I am now a complete convert. Team-flying can be extremely effective and we were able to fly a lot better because we did this. We were all amazed that we were able to stick together so well. Going into 2017, JP and I plan on practicing team-flying as much as we can. We would like to make informal weekend meets at Mifflin where we can fly with John Good and do ground school on tactics and strategy so that we can perform better in the upcoming Junior Worlds.

Our idea is to also expand this to other serious juniors within a reasonable radius of Mifflin and hopefully make this the basis of a consistent junior racing contingent.

Something that would be helpful to us developing skills and tactics for future world competitions is if team-flying were to be allowed at the National level. It would certainly be a great way to implement the practice we intend on doing during the off-season in a racing environment.

Best Regards,
Daniel


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Old December 14th 15, 09:52 PM posted to rec.aviation.soaring
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The other major takeaway is the need to practice team flying. I am now a complete convert. Team-flying can be extremely effective and we were able to fly a lot better because we did this. We were all amazed that we were able to stick together so well. Going into 2017, JP and I plan on practicing team-flying as much as we can. We would like to make informal weekend meets at Mifflin where we can fly with John Good and do ground school on tactics and strategy so that we can perform better in the upcoming Junior Worlds.

Our idea is to also expand this to other serious juniors within a reasonable radius of Mifflin and hopefully make this the basis of a consistent junior racing contingent.

Something that would be helpful to us developing skills and tactics for future world competitions is if team-flying were to be allowed at the National level. It would certainly be a great way to implement the practice we intend on doing during the off-season in a racing environment.



i would love to come down to mifflin with my sailplane to take part in this!
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Old December 20th 15, 03:33 PM posted to rec.aviation.soaring
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Congratulations to all participants. I'm looking forward to your next JWGC in Lithuania.
Here are some thoughtful comments about the final day by Tom Arscott. Very insightful regarding tactics and risk.
https://www.facebook.com/britishglid...72053282851635

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Old December 21st 15, 04:07 AM posted to rec.aviation.soaring
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"Big sectors, close together in a relatively short AAT can be a recipe for a bit of a lottery, and there was a lot to be gained or lost on the last day." Well said kid! A "bit" of a lottery? You don't say! ;-)

Great report. These are all extremely bright kids, especially our US guys who don't yet have all the tools and practice opportunities that many of these other top junior teams enjoy. If we can somehow narrow this margin, our juniors will be right in there in 2017. They also get a final chance in 2019. What a great goal! As a country, the USA would really benefit from increasing the support for our Junior team (and expanding it) moving forward.
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Old December 21st 15, 03:34 PM posted to rec.aviation.soaring
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On Sunday, December 20, 2015 at 8:33:42 AM UTC-7, Craig Reinholt wrote:
Congratulations to all participants. I'm looking forward to your next JWGC in Lithuania.
Here are some thoughtful comments about the final day by Tom Arscott. Very insightful regarding tactics and risk.
https://www.facebook.com/britishglid...72053282851635


Just an excerpt from the young winner's thank yous:
Firstly, on behalf of the whole team, I need to thank our generous sponsors, without whom this would not have been possible. The British Gliding Association for all their support, including entering us in to the comp and transporting our gliders, British Airways for flying the whole team across the world, Land Rover for providing us with a Discovery for the comp, Apogee for lending and fitting us out a container to transport all of our equipment, and Sydney Charles, Lasham Gliding Society, Naviter and Navboys for supporting the team throughout the year.
Where are the US team sponsors? Jeep, Delta Air Lines, a US shipping company, etc. Hello? Is there any marketing benefit to these organizations to sponsor a US team in the future? Any marketing gurus out there that might want to tackle this? Or do we want soaring in the US to remain a middle aged (and up) guys' sport for those who can afford it?
Gene
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Old December 14th 15, 11:38 AM posted to rec.aviation.soaring
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Yep. I let out a scream of "NOOOOOO!!!!" on the last day when Boyd's tracker said he had landed out.


We certainly came close! We had some bad luck and plummeted from 6000ft AGL to 850ft without hitting any reasonable nibble. The sink was atrocious and the only reprieve was a weak little thermal over the field we were planning on landing in. All three of us, plus a straggler were parked in this little thermal, digging out. It was certainly a slow climb, but we got away and made it back home. Prior to plummeting out of the sky, we were really cooking along. If we had managed to keep the pace we were going and come back at minimum time, Boyd would have gotten third place. It was a good tactical gamble, but it did not work out.

Climbing out of that field was certainly exciting. It was the most fun low save I ever had, being in the company of three other gliders.

Best Regards,
Daniel
 




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