The truth about Flarm Stealth and Competition definition...

"I feel that the "current proposed SSA RC competition mode" is a decent compromise for the peeps that want more safety, but also limits some of the possible tactical advantage of "full open Flarm". "

Can you point me to specifications of this so called "competition" mode? What vapor ware are you talking about? The only thing that was voted on was "stealth" mode.

Let's stick to facts not wishes.

XC said earlier (I can't find how to copy threads so I'll do it manually).... "Throughout these threads this is still a lot of talk overstated talk about safety that is covering for what some folks really want, to buddy-fly their way around the race course.

BB has even said leading out is a losing strategy. Strange, champions of the past weren't afraid to lead out. Is this the way we are heading?

FLARM with stealth as it is now really works well in a contest setting for collision avoidance. Those who claim otherwise have largely never tried it and/or want (need) to see others to make their way around the race course. Seems kind of weak-assed in my opinion. "

Sean,

Your statements are increasingly close to ad hominem attacks for anyone that disagrees with you. So let me join you, albeit on the other side.

SOME folks (me included) really, really don't want to die because some Luddite wants to turn back the clock on new technology.

SOME folks want to see people because they don't want to hit them. NOT because they're weak assed followers.

And SOME folks want to spend their evenings with their loved ones for a long long time.

And THIS folk couldn't care less about following. THIS folk simply doesn't want to die unnecessarily.

I'm actually so sick of this stupid discussion that I'll make a statement right now. I WILL NOT fly in a contest where Luddites like yourself choose to risk death for some purported "strong assed" manly chest thumping stupidity.

Aren't you safety officer for our club? God, I shudder at the thought.

On Sunday, January 3, 2016 at 8:57:50 PM UTC-5, Andrzej Kobus wrote:
"I feel that the "current proposed SSA RC competition mode" is a decent compromise for the peeps that want more safety, but also limits some of the possible tactical advantage of "full open Flarm". "

Can you point me to specifications of this so called "competition" mode? What vapor ware are you talking about? The only thing that was voted on was "stealth" mode.

Let's stick to facts not wishes.

In other posts, opening up the range to 5KM, looks like most other items of "US Stealth" are kept. This keeps within some of "current" (March 2015 by Flarm, unlike undated document linked by Sean Fidler regarding "competition mode") Flarm info regarding "under optimum range, 5KM is OK" but "may" exceed that in optimum conditions.

If you've kept up on a bit of this discussion (spread all over RAS), you would have seen this more than once......

I did......

On Sunday, January 3, 2016 at 10:03:31 PM UTC-5, Charlie M. (UH & 002 owner/pilot) wrote:
On Sunday, January 3, 2016 at 8:57:50 PM UTC-5, Andrzej Kobus wrote:
"I feel that the "current proposed SSA RC competition mode" is a decent compromise for the peeps that want more safety, but also limits some of the possible tactical advantage of "full open Flarm". "

Can you point me to specifications of this so called "competition" mode? What vapor ware are you talking about? The only thing that was voted on was "stealth" mode.

Let's stick to facts not wishes.

In other posts, opening up the range to 5KM, looks like most other items of "US Stealth" are kept. This keeps within some of "current" (March 2015 by Flarm, unlike undated document linked by Sean Fidler regarding "competition mode") Flarm info regarding "under optimum range, 5KM is OK" but "may" exceed that in optimum conditions.

If you've kept up on a bit of this discussion (spread all over RAS), you would have seen this more than once......

I did......

So once again, where is the specification?

On Sunday, January 3, 2016 at 8:57:50 PM UTC-5, Andrzej Kobus wrote:
"I feel that the "current proposed SSA RC competition mode" is a decent compromise for the peeps that want more safety, but also limits some of the possible tactical advantage of "full open Flarm". "

Can you point me to specifications of this so called "competition" mode? What vapor ware are you talking about? The only thing that was voted on was "stealth" mode.

Let's stick to facts not wishes.

Clarification to avoid a misunderstanding I may have caused.
UH described in an earlier message some attributes that I believe would meaningfully address Stealth in a manner that could provide a variant that would provide a version very close to current open mode while at least partially addressing the concerns of pilots who want the tactical aspects reduced.
It was not comprehensive, nor complete and does NOT represent the opinion of the RC.
These comments were for consideration by those who read this forum. I believe it is possible to come up with and improvement that most pilots can accept. That remains to be seen. It has been intended to foster constructive dialog.
UH