Glider Racing in the future

On Wednesday, February 10, 2016 at 6:38:36 PM UTC-5, BobW wrote:
On 2/10/2016 3:08 PM, Dan Marotta wrote:
Why must someone either purchase and install the latest technology or...
be a technophobe?

I can assure you that I've been involved with developing and operating some
of the highest technologies, things that you can't even imagine but, if I
don't want to install some technology that you think is the cat's meow, I'm
a technophobe.

There is some middle ground after all. Some call it "diff'rent strokes".

snip The SSA convention would be a good place for technophobes to learn
how to embrace new soaring technology. Jim

-- Dan, 5J

Dan, you contentious, technophobic, piece of moose...no, wait!!! Once you get
used to "the new normal" ascendant with much of humanity being continuously
on-line, and compulsively texting to the point of having no time for nuanced
communications, you'll be just fine. Embrace your new reality!

Bob - happily cell-phone-less - W.

While I would normally NOT reply to this....... I'm sorta, "On the fence". I will assume (yes, I know the acronym of this), this post was a bit of, "Tongue in check?".

BTW, have a great day.

:-D

On 2/10/2016 4:38 PM, BobW wrote:
On 2/10/2016 3:08 PM, Dan Marotta wrote:
Why must someone either purchase and install the latest technology or...
be a technophobe?

I can assure you that I've been involved with developing and
operating some
of the highest technologies, things that you can't even imagine but,
if I
don't want to install some technology that you think is the cat's
meow, I'm
a technophobe.

There is some middle ground after all. Some call it "diff'rent
strokes".

snip The SSA convention would be a good place for technophobes to
learn
how to embrace new soaring technology. Jim

-- Dan, 5J

Dan, you contentious, technophobic, piece of moose...no, wait!!! Once
you get used to "the new normal" ascendant with much of humanity being
continuously on-line, and compulsively texting to the point of having
no time for nuanced communications, you'll be just fine. Embrace your
new reality!

Bob - happily cell-phone-less - W.

--
Dan, 5J

Thought I'd included myself on the technophobe list with the early GPS bit!
Perhaps there are degrees of phobia?
Most of us overcame the fear of using GPS, transponder or a pee tube.
Some people refuse to try Vietnamese soup.
Jim

Yeah, yeah. I know. I just didnt want to mess too much, to fast with our only real useful anti-collision tool. ;-)

Let them (Flarm, IGC, etc) figure out a new reduced info mode that works well, is safe, etc and then we will support it...if ADSB isnt too close to being a requirement in gliders by then...

What some feel about technology may simply not be possible to ban (FAA regulations) in a very short time...

Sean

On Tuesday, February 9, 2016 at 8:30:19 PM UTC-5, John Godfrey (QT) wrote:
On Sunday, February 7, 2016 at 2:42:54 PM UTC-5, SF wrote:
TOPIC: "Racing in the Futu Should We Moderate the Impact of Technology?"

John Godfrey (QT) began competing in gliders in 1984. He was elected to the US Competition Rules Committee in 2008 and has chaired the committee since 2013. In addition he has served as Competition Director for National championships, Scorer for both International and US contests, and US Team Captain for the 2006 WGC.

John's key interest is in increasing participation by making/keeping racing fun and affordable for people like him (i.e., those unlikely to win a National). In addition to presenting a road map for coming technologies and their possible impact, he looks forward to thoughtful and lively interactions with the audience on these issues.

Thursday Feb. 18, 2016 2:30 - 3:15 PM
SSA Convention Greenville SC
www.ssaconvention.org

Flarm on, you flarming Flarmers
SF

https://groups.google.com/forum/#!se...M/DbF55dhoEQAJ

On Wednesday, February 10, 2016 at 9:45:28 PM UTC-5, JS wrote:
Thought I'd included myself on the technophobe list with the early GPS bit!
Perhaps there are degrees of phobia?
Most of us overcame the fear of using GPS, transponder or a pee tube.
Some people refuse to try Vietnamese soup.
Jim

Pee tube?!?!...... I still use quart sized zip-lock baggies! Sheesh, I guess I'm behind the times.....

On 2/10/2016 7:45 PM, JS wrote:
Thought I'd included myself on the technophobe list with the early GPS bit!
Perhaps there are degrees of phobia?
Most of us overcame the fear of using GPS, transponder or a pee tube.
Some people refuse to try Vietnamese soup.
Jim

Or menudo or haggis or Rocky Mountain oysters...

--
Dan, 5J

You know a topic about the future has gone off track when Vietnamese soup is mentioned.

We are addicted to technology. Not just in gliding, but in everyday life. I foresee of no conceivable way to ban it from a sport begging for more participation. The PW-5 was an attempt at limiting technology, in a trade off for affordability, that didn't turn out so well. Or is that something else I got wrong? Pretty soon I'll be banned from talking about the future, in addition to Schempp Hirth.

Bob W, dude, next time I'm working up a performance review for our sales manager, you are the first guy I gonna call.

Oh and the guy that is going to race the 1-26, those things are a blast in a one design race, just get your self a cell phone first, makes calling the retrieve desk easier.



SF

On Wednesday, February 10, 2016 at 8:10:30 AM UTC-6, Dave Springford wrote:
Soaring of the future is here - a completely autonomous RC glider has flown a 113.4 km (70.47 mi) open distance. It has also unofficially broken the cross-country soaring out-and-return world record by flying 97.2 km (60.4 mi) declared distance over approximately 4.55 hr.

All the details are in the paper from the US Naval Research Lab that you may read he

http://www.dtic.mil/get-tr-doc/pdf?AD=ADA614555

I would rather we not allow soaring autopilots in the cockpits of racing sailplanes. Guess that makes me a Luddite.

On Fri, 12 Feb 2016 15:45:53 -0800, WB wrote:


I would rather we not allow soaring autopilots in the cockpits of racing
sailplanes. Guess that makes me a Luddite.

I suppose that depends on what the competition is trying to measu if
its pilot skill or the performance of a particular airframe+pilot, then
you're absolutely right.

However, if the competition is purely to pick the best glider, then
something like the scenario on Arthur C Clark's "The Wind From The Sun"
is more appropriate: the pilot handles takeoff and tow before bailing out
at the start line, leaving the autopilot to do the business.


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martin@ | Martin Gregorie
gregorie. | Essex, UK
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A cell phone for the retreave desk? Hell ive got them on speed dial when flying the 1-26 but i just wish karl would get the handicapping right, if so my little spam can would be creaming you glass boys or if they adopt that new handicapped task like they are experimenting with up in truckie, the glass boys will be the ones needing the speed dial! Lol