Dashing downwind

On 2/26/2016 6:36 AM, Chris Snyder wrote:
On Thursday, February 25, 2016 at 5:25:33 PM UTC-5, Tony wrote:
Made it to declared goal of Talihina, OK with not much trouble. Spent a
little more time below 5500 msl than I'd have liked in the last 40 miles
there.


Truly amazing! That's farther than I ever flew in a POWERED airplane.

Thank you all for explaining. There's a lot to learn in this sport!

We're forecast to get 5k' in Central Virginia on Saturday. Maybe I should
give this "downwind dash" a try in the club 2-33.


Here, now - don't be dissing the 2-33! The first guy in the world to ever soar
farther than 1000km, got his Gold distance and Diamond goal in the 2-33's
predecessor, the 2-22. (Exceeded 200 miles! Vulgar downwind dash! A claimed
17:1 [on a good day?].) Guy by the name of Al Parker - you can read all about
some of his more major exploits in "Soaring" mag's archives (great resource
for SSA members!).

Bob W.

Ya, Al Parker was a STUD!

I suppose i should mention that I flew this flight with a Bumper MkIV yaw string and without it I would've never known what direction inwas pointed.

On Friday, February 26, 2016 at 7:41:16 PM UTC-5, BobW wrote:
On 2/26/2016 6:36 AM, Chris Snyder wrote:
On Thursday, February 25, 2016 at 5:25:33 PM UTC-5, Tony wrote:
Made it to declared goal of Talihina, OK with not much trouble. Spent a
little more time below 5500 msl than I'd have liked in the last 40 miles
there.


Truly amazing! That's farther than I ever flew in a POWERED airplane.

Thank you all for explaining. There's a lot to learn in this sport!

We're forecast to get 5k' in Central Virginia on Saturday. Maybe I should
give this "downwind dash" a try in the club 2-33.


Here, now - don't be dissing the 2-33! The first guy in the world to ever soar
farther than 1000km, got his Gold distance and Diamond goal in the 2-33's
predecessor, the 2-22. (Exceeded 200 miles! Vulgar downwind dash! A claimed
17:1 [on a good day?].) Guy by the name of Al Parker - you can read all about
some of his more major exploits in "Soaring" mag's archives (great resource
for SSA members!).

Bob W.

Wow, that does deserve respect! I meant no slight to the venerable 2-33. I was however being a little tongue-in-cheek since it seems like it could be a beast to retrieve and I'm still only a solo student.

The TopMetro forecast is still looking good for tomorrow, so fingers crossed that I can find some lift.

On 2/26/2016 8:58 PM, Chris Snyder wrote:
On Friday, February 26, 2016 at 7:41:16 PM UTC-5, BobW wrote:
On 2/26/2016 6:36 AM, Chris Snyder wrote:
On Thursday, February 25, 2016 at 5:25:33 PM UTC-5, Tony wrote:
Made it to declared goal of Talihina, OK with not much trouble. Spent
a little more time below 5500 msl than I'd have liked in the last 40
miles there.


Truly amazing! That's farther than I ever flew in a POWERED airplane.

Thank you all for explaining. There's a lot to learn in this sport!

We're forecast to get 5k' in Central Virginia on Saturday. Maybe I
should give this "downwind dash" a try in the club 2-33.


Here, now - don't be dissing the 2-33! The first guy in the world to ever
soar farther than 1000km, got his Gold distance and Diamond goal in the
2-33's predecessor, the 2-22. (Exceeded 200 miles! Vulgar downwind dash!
A claimed 17:1 [on a good day?].) Guy by the name of Al Parker - you can
read all about some of his more major exploits in "Soaring" mag's
archives (great resource for SSA members!).

Bob W.

Wow, that does deserve respect! I meant no slight to the venerable 2-33.
I was however being a little tongue-in-cheek since it seems like it could
be a beast to retrieve and I'm still only a solo student.

The TopMetro forecast is still looking good for tomorrow, so fingers
crossed that I can find some lift.

"Roger that," on the tongue-in-cheek bit, and, "Likewise, of course." And
having once "Schweizer open-trailer retrieved" a 2-33 landed out by someone at
your present stage of things, it wasn't so bad! It did require the "properly
requisite number of helpers" to avoid being dangerous to both participants and
the ship, though! More Great Fun...when done in suitable moderation! Like a
1-26, but (if possible) more so, from a parts-count perspective.

Bob W.

On Friday, February 26, 2016 at 7:41:16 PM UTC-5, BobW wrote:
On 2/26/2016 6:36 AM, Chris Snyder wrote:
On Thursday, February 25, 2016 at 5:25:33 PM UTC-5, Tony wrote:
Made it to declared goal of Talihina, OK with not much trouble. Spent a
little more time below 5500 msl than I'd have liked in the last 40 miles
there.


Truly amazing! That's farther than I ever flew in a POWERED airplane.

Thank you all for explaining. There's a lot to learn in this sport!

We're forecast to get 5k' in Central Virginia on Saturday. Maybe I should
give this "downwind dash" a try in the club 2-33.


Here, now - don't be dissing the 2-33! The first guy in the world to ever soar
farther than 1000km, got his Gold distance and Diamond goal in the 2-33's
predecessor, the 2-22. (Exceeded 200 miles! Vulgar downwind dash! A claimed
17:1 [on a good day?].) Guy by the name of Al Parker - you can read all about
some of his more major exploits in "Soaring" mag's archives (great resource
for SSA members!).

Bob W.

17 to 1 ? Now there are hang glider performance levels that equal that! And much easier assembly and transport!

On Saturday, February 27, 2016 at 11:03:12 AM UTC-5, Soartech wrote:
On Friday, February 26, 2016 at 7:41:16 PM UTC-5, BobW wrote:
On 2/26/2016 6:36 AM, Chris Snyder wrote:
On Thursday, February 25, 2016 at 5:25:33 PM UTC-5, Tony wrote:
Made it to declared goal of Talihina, OK with not much trouble. Spent a
little more time below 5500 msl than I'd have liked in the last 40 miles
there.


Truly amazing! That's farther than I ever flew in a POWERED airplane.

Thank you all for explaining. There's a lot to learn in this sport!

We're forecast to get 5k' in Central Virginia on Saturday. Maybe I should
give this "downwind dash" a try in the club 2-33.


Here, now - don't be dissing the 2-33! The first guy in the world to ever soar
farther than 1000km, got his Gold distance and Diamond goal in the 2-33's
predecessor, the 2-22. (Exceeded 200 miles! Vulgar downwind dash! A claimed
17:1 [on a good day?].) Guy by the name of Al Parker - you can read all about
some of his more major exploits in "Soaring" mag's archives (great resource
for SSA members!).

Bob W.

17 to 1 ? Now there are hang glider performance levels that equal that! And much easier assembly and transport!

It is called a "SGU-2-22" for a reason, the "U" is for utility (based on L/D) vs. a SGS-2-33 which has the 2nd "S" for sailplane (also based on L/D).

IIRC, the split was 20:1, below that it's a "U", above that it's a "S".

And yes, modern "lots of things" do better than 17:1. Although "powered aircraft" don't usually get that far (engine off glide).

[old trivia.....]

On 2/27/2016 9:03 AM, Soartech wrote:
On Friday, February 26, 2016 at 7:41:16 PM UTC-5, BobW wrote:
On 2/26/2016 6:36 AM, Chris Snyder wrote:
On Thursday, February 25, 2016 at 5:25:33 PM UTC-5, Tony wrote:
Made it to declared goal of Talihina, OK with not much trouble. Spent
a little more time below 5500 msl than I'd have liked in the last 40
miles there.


Truly amazing! That's farther than I ever flew in a POWERED airplane.

Thank you all for explaining. There's a lot to learn in this sport!

We're forecast to get 5k' in Central Virginia on Saturday. Maybe I
should give this "downwind dash" a try in the club 2-33.


Here, now - don't be dissing the 2-33! The first guy in the world to ever
soar farther than 1000km, got his Gold distance and Diamond goal in the
2-33's predecessor, the 2-22. (Exceeded 200 miles! Vulgar downwind dash!
A claimed 17:1 [on a good day?].) Guy by the name of Al Parker - you can
read all about some of his more major exploits in "Soaring" mag's
archives (great resource for SSA members!).

Bob W.

17 to 1 ? Now there are hang glider performance levels that equal that! And
much easier assembly and transport!


Ah, yes...but undoubtedly lacking in cachet, compared to Schweizer's
often-underloved progeny! (Hey! The DC-3 remains beloved for many of the same
reasons 2-33s are dissed: docile; darned near indestructible; a touch on the
bulbous and homely side; etc. What's wrong with this picture?!? )

Bob W.

Yes, Al Parker's 300K flight in a Schweizer 2-22 remains a remarkable achievement, even more so if--like me--you spent a fair amount of your early hours in one of them. For years, I'd hop out of our 201 Libelle or LS-3 and into a 2-22 for a BFR and be almost panic-stricken to realize how much force it took sawing away on the stick to fly it and how fast it dropped after we got off tow. Memories.

Chip Bearden

What was that famos 2-22 quote "the 2-22 comes down fast right up till you want it to land"! I aero towed one xc to relocate it and after releasing at 5000 agl 10 miles from the gliderport, and I beat the tow plane down without spoilers

Flight report up on my SSA Member Blog:

http://www.ssa.org/MyHome.asp?mbr=82...w=blog&id=4120