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Republican Party Dirty Tricks
Oh, yes. There is a Republican party dirty tricks apparatus:
"Donald H. Segretti (born September 17, 1941) was a political operative for the Nixon White House during the 1970s. Segretti ran a campaign of dirty tricks against the Democrats. His actions were part of the larger Watergate Scandal. He went to prison in 1974 after pleading guilty to three misdemeanor counts of distributing illegal campaign literature. A major part of this was a faked letter on Edmund Muskie's letterhead falsely alleging that senator Henry "Scoop" Jackson had had an illegitimate child with a 17-year-old. Segretti was a lawyer — initially a prosecutor for the military and later as a civilian. However, his license was suspended for two years following his conviction. In 1995, he briefly ran for a local judgeship in Orange County, California. He withdrew from the race shortly after his campign received publicity, which awakened lingering anger over his involvement in the scandal." --wikipdeia "It's no accident that Karl Rove was one of Richard Nixon's moles. Using techniques developed by his first mentor, dirty-tricks strategist Donald Segretti, Rove infiltrated Democratic organizations on behalf of Nixon's infamous 1972 campaign. Rove's formidable talents came to the attention of George Bush Senior, then incoming Republican National Committee chairman, and the rest is history. Seven presidential campaigns later, Rove masterminded a deluge of disinformation against John McCain, whose upset victory in New Hampshire had given him a shot at the Republican nomination. Word was spread among South Carolina voters that McCain had fathered a black daughter out of wedlock (McCain had, in fact, adopted a Bangladeshi girl), that McCain was a homosexual, that McCain's wife had a drug problem and so on. Now Rove is masterminding the Bush administration's press strategy, but it's far more than a press strategy. It's the central strategy for how the public understands what George W. Bush is doing to and for America. In an important sense, it is the Bush presidency. Rove's methodology largely explains why Bush's popularity remains strong despite the unremittingly awful economy (mounting job losses, weak profits and a three-year stock-market slide) and despite the shambles of the administration's foreign policy (Osama bin Laden still at large, al-Qaeda as dangerous as ever, North Korea more menacing than ever, Israelis and Palestinians as far away from the bargaining table as ever, anti-Americanism rising across the globe and a pending war in Iraq lacking clear justification)." http://www.prospect.org/print/V14/2/reich-r.html Walt |
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"WalterM140" wrote in message ... Oh, yes. There is a Republican party dirty tricks apparatus: Imagine if a bunch of people from some other country (say France) hijacked rcm to talk about their domestic politics. Do you suppose that would **** you off? It is incredibly arrogant to think that the whole world is so interested in USA politics that it is OK to smear it across any newsgroup that takes your fancy. Vaughn |
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Vaughn wrote:
"WalterM140" wrote in message ... Oh, yes. There is a Republican party dirty tricks apparatus: Imagine if a bunch of people from some other country (say France) hijacked rcm to talk about their domestic politics. Do you suppose that would **** you off? It is incredibly arrogant to think that the whole world is so interested in USA politics that it is OK to smear it across any newsgroup that takes your fancy. Vaughn Is that First Amendment something, or what!! I hate to dissillusion you, but that selfsame FA says it is OK to run one's chops on whatever one wants and whereever one wants. But what's your point? You embarrassed that a handful of English-reading furriners might learn that some of us are a bit less than perfect, or maybe even a little less than honest? It must be hell to have our mistaken belief that we're all squeaky clean exposed to the glare of enlightenment. Take heart, though....we've survived that kind of exposure in the past, and I'm sure we'll do so again. George Z. |
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KICK THEIR ASS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
TAKE THEIR GAS!!!!!!! The Durango 95 purred away real horrorshow. A nice warm vibratey feeling all through your guttiwuts. |
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"WalterM140" wrote:
Oh, yes. There is a Republican party dirty tricks apparatus: "Donald H. Segretti (born September 17, 1941) was a political operative for the Nixon White House during the 1970s. Segretti ran a campaign of dirty tricks against the Democrats. His actions were part of the larger Watergate Scandal. He went to prison in 1974 after pleading guilty to three misdemeanor counts of distributing illegal campaign literature. A major part of this was a faked letter on Edmund Muskie's letterhead falsely alleging that senator Henry "Scoop" Jackson had had an illegitimate child with a 17-year-old. The New Hampshire primary that year occurred in March 1972 and the distribution of the "Muskie" letter occurred prior to that event. The law Segretti pled guilty to didn't actually go into effect until April 1972 (the Federal Election Campaign Act of 1971). So while it might be classified as "dirty tricks" the distribution of the Muskie letter before the New Hampshire primary would not have been illegal at that time - so any of the politicians in the Presidential race that year could have legally distributed the "Muskie" letter prior to the law going into effect in April 1972. |
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"Vaughn" wrote in message ... "WalterM140" wrote in message ... Oh, yes. There is a Republican party dirty tricks apparatus: Imagine if a bunch of people from some other country (say France) hijacked rcm to talk about their domestic politics. Do you suppose that would **** you off? It is incredibly arrogant to think that the whole world is so interested in USA politics that it is OK to smear it across any newsgroup that takes your fancy. Just block him and be done with it. |
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John Keeney wrote:
"Vaughn" wrote in message ... "WalterM140" wrote in message ... Oh, yes. There is a Republican party dirty tricks apparatus: Imagine if a bunch of people from some other country (say France) hijacked rcm to talk about their domestic politics. Do you suppose that would **** you off? It is incredibly arrogant to think that the whole world is so interested in USA politics that it is OK to smear it across any newsgroup that takes your fancy. Just block him and be done with it. Actually, it's incredibly arrogant to think that the US owns ram and that only Americans are entitled to use it. If you haven't noticed, furriners often do have something to say here, sometimes about our politics, as do we about theirs. As far as posting on an Internet NG is concerned, it's not just a free country, it's a free world. Everybody can and does use it, so the argument is really moot. George Z. |
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"George Z. Bush" wrote in message ... John Keeney wrote: "Vaughn" wrote in message ... "WalterM140" wrote in message ... Oh, yes. There is a Republican party dirty tricks apparatus: Imagine if a bunch of people from some other country (say France) hijacked rcm to talk about their domestic politics. Do you suppose that would **** you off? It is incredibly arrogant to think that the whole world is so interested in USA politics that it is OK to smear it across any newsgroup that takes your fancy. Just block him and be done with it. Actually, it's incredibly arrogant to think that the US owns ram and that only Americans are entitled to use it. Who the hell thinks that? If you take the time to read what I said (you quoted it above) you will find exactly the opposite idea. This is, and always has been, an international group. We should not be junking it up with OT discussions about domestic US politics like the one that started this thread. Vaughn |
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Vaughn wrote:
"George Z. Bush" wrote in message ... John Keeney wrote: "Vaughn" wrote in message ... "WalterM140" wrote in message ... Oh, yes. There is a Republican party dirty tricks apparatus: Imagine if a bunch of people from some other country (say France) hijacked rcm to talk about their domestic politics. Do you suppose that would **** you off? It is incredibly arrogant to think that the whole world is so interested in USA politics that it is OK to smear it across any newsgroup that takes your fancy. Just block him and be done with it. Actually, it's incredibly arrogant to think that the US owns ram and that only Americans are entitled to use it. Who the hell thinks that? If you take the time to read what I said (you quoted it above) you will find exactly the opposite idea. This is, and always has been, an international group. We should not be junking it up with OT discussions about domestic US politics like the one that started this thread. On re-reading what you said, I must confess to a bit of confusion about what you were trying to say. Actually, though, I don't think that the world is so uninterested in US politics that it'd be inappropriate to discuss it in NGs like this. We all need to keep in mind when our country roars, other less powerful or influential nations perforce quake or at least shake a little. They might very well think that it'd behoove them to pay attention to what's going on over here in our domestic political lives. Of course, it'd only be courteous to identify such OT subjects for the benefit of foreign readers who might choose to skip such discussions. However, to suggest that we ought to keep such discussions out altogether shows no respect for the rights of Americans to exercise the free speech guaranteed to all of us by our Constitution's First Amendment. George Z. |
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