Flight review required?

However a WINGS phase has both knowledge and flight elements. What flight elements are you planning on doing in the glider?

Doesn't the Sport Pilot require solo time in the glider prior to the double instructor sign off on the 8710-11? How does he do that without a flight review?
Because when it comes down to the bottom line, he is still a rated pilot doing an add-on, solo time, in an aircraft he is not rated for, even if the rating in Sport Pilot, Private, or Commercial.

Questions still need deeper research.

BillT

I'm assuming this discussion is about an airplane (or other non-glider) pilot who has chosen not to renew a medical for some reason, and is now also more than 24 months since the last flight review.

Best I can tell, there is no requirement that a person receiving a flight review must be legal to fly as PIC in the airplane (have a current medical). So as long as the instructor is current for carrying a passenger, and willing to sign off this pilot, then a flight review can be done in an airplane prior to soloing the glider.

Am I missing something?

Tom

Adding a "rating" to light sport requires training to proficiency (dual) and proficiency check with a different instructor (dual). No solo time required. Still not legal to fly until a flight review is completed.

A flight review can only take place in a class/category combo someone already has. Ditto - I think - for WINGS. There is no requirement to be 24-month or 90-day current for a flight review.

I agree with Terry and Roger.

In

"§61.321 How do I obtain privileges to operate an additional category or class of light-sport aircraft?"

there is no reference to 61.313 which spells out the hourly requirements for, what I believe are, the initial Sport Pilot certificate. Since the Commercial Pilot certificate covers Sport Pilot privileges, there is no initial Sport Pilot certificate to acquire in this case.

Also, there is no regulation that I can find that says an applicant MUST be Acting PIC on either a Proficiency Check with an instructor or during a Practical Exam with an Examiner or Inspector.

If using it as a guide, the DPE Handbook strongly discourages a DPE from acting as a PIC during an exam. But I would assume than a Proficiency Check instructor would be more amenable to acting as PIC.

On Sunday, April 24, 2016 at 10:18:45 AM UTC-4, N97MT wrote:

But I would assume than a Proficiency Check instructor would be more amenable to acting as PIC.

I can ask the one super knowledgeable Light Sport school guy I'm acquainted with, but I'd "assume" that the proficiency checking instructor must be PIC because 1) he/she's NOT a DPE and 2) the applicant is not yet rated in the new aircraft.

On Sunday, April 24, 2016 at 9:26:42 AM UTC-5, Terry Pitts wrote:
On Sunday, April 24, 2016 at 10:18:45 AM UTC-4, N97MT wrote:

But I would assume than a Proficiency Check instructor would be more amenable to acting as PIC.

I can ask the one super knowledgeable Light Sport school guy I'm acquainted with, but I'd "assume" that the proficiency checking instructor must be PIC because 1) he/she's NOT a DPE and 2) the applicant is not yet rated in the new aircraft.

OK, so what that implies is that a Proficiency Check instructor is NOT an Examiner. However, if he is not an Examiner, then the Proficiency Check does not count as a Flight Review as is discussed in 61.56(d)(1). In such case, the newly-rated Sport glider pilot will have to do a Flight Review following the Proficiency Check, if he has not already done so within 24 months before flying as PIC in his other rating(s).

Of course, he just added the Sport glider rating privilege, so he can now legally do the Flight Review in the glider. After THAT he can go and fly solo, get currency to fly with 1 passenger, etc.

Nuts.

On Sunday, April 24, 2016 at 12:33:18 AM UTC-4, wrote:
I'm assuming this discussion is about an airplane (or other non-glider) pilot who has chosen not to renew a medical for some reason, and is now also more than 24 months since the last flight review.

Maybe a safe assumption, but all I know is that the guy is a formerly active commercial pilot who DOESN'T WANT TO FLY POWERED AIRCRAFT ANY MORE...


Best I can tell... So as long as the instructor is current for carrying a passenger, and willing to sign off this pilot, then a flight review can be done in an airplane prior to soloing the glider.

The 90-day currency for carrying passengers doesn't apply to one CFI and one "student" in the airplane/glider. For a training flight both are "required crew members," and neither one is a passenger with respect to the other.

then a flight review can be done in an airplane prior to soloing the glider.

Of course it can. But, why spend the money getting PTS proficient when the guy doesn't want to fly powered aircraft anymore. The money can best be spent becoming a better glider pilot.

I suppose the guy could also throw his certificate in the mail with a note to the FAA, then follow the new process to get a Student Pilot Certificate...