For the recordZZZZZJJJJJJ

Juan,

If I've read the correct thread, Chuck referred to you as "Zoom's toady,
Jaun". Could that be construed as a personal attack? Sure. But Chucks'
claim to fame is as an aircraft manufacturer, nothing else. He hasn't, to
the best of my knowledge, claimed to be anyone or anything else. You on the
other hand, claim to be a journalist. As a journalist, you are
automatically held to a higher standard, in ANY forum.

Preamble
Members of the Society of Professional Journalists believe that public
enlightenment is the forerunner of justice and the foundation of democracy.
The duty of the journalist is to further those ends by seeking truth and
providing a fair and comprehensive account of events and issues.
Conscientious journalists from all media and specialties strive to serve the
public with thoroughness and honesty. Professional integrity is the
cornerstone of a journalist's credibility. Members of the Society share a
dedication to ethical behavior and adopt this code to declare the Society's
principles and standards of practice.

I'd repost the whole thing, but you've already seen it. If you are not
acting in this manner, then you've already lost, even if you win this small
battle. Worse, you are helping your opponent win, and demeaning the term
"journalist" in everyones' eyes (and not just in RAH). This is a part of
what I was asking you about how you wanted to be remembered, and the measure
of a man.

Red


"Juan..E.-Jimenez" b*d&5^-@-*b(d)5+.!c#o$m wrote in message
news:Y7Wyb.276876$9E1.1459437@attbi_s52...

"B2431" wrote in message
...

Juan, you pressed for proof about Chuck's truck for some reason I will
never
understand. You demand all kinds of information from him, yet refuse to
provide
the equivillent when asked in return.

Don't blame me for not following the thread to its beginning. The Duckboy
got stomped because he decided to stick his foot in his mouth and poke the
wrong person. I don't have to provide anything for him, because I don't
need
to prove anything to him.

remainder of BS snipped




---
Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free.
Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com).
Version: 6.0.545 / Virus Database: 339 - Release Date: 11/27/2003

In article , red12049 says...

Juan,

If I've read the correct thread, Chuck referred to you as "Zoom's toady,
Jaun". Could that be construed as a personal attack? Sure.

But more importantly what I said was "true" not a vague accusation or innuendo
or a generality. What you say about Journalism is true and jaun fails the test
as a journalist.He hinted in previous posts that I had children in the juvenile
justice system ,that I was hiding things and didn't own a vehicle with my name
on the title. None of it true but all designed to damage me and my
reputation.Just because I called him "zoom's toady" he feels he has the right to
insult me and my children personally. I could have gone to the gutter with him
and asked for proof of a lot of things but didn't.

But Chucks'
claim to fame is as an aircraft manufacturer, nothing else. He hasn't, to
the best of my knowledge, claimed to be anyone or anything else.

That's correct ,if I said I designed the Hawk I can prove it,if I said I had a
patent I can prove it ,same for Junk Yard Wars ,Hall of Fame and my other
accomplishments. From what I can see jaun hasn't finished anything ,test flown
anything or done anything worthy of note, the same for as his hero zoom .Yet
both of those guys feel that they have some right to judge the works of others.
Boy what a case of inflated egos. Problem is they believe their own hype and
think we do too...NOT!!


You on the
other hand, claim to be a journalist. As a journalist, you are
automatically held to a higher standard, in ANY forum.

jaun can't fill a journalist's shoes he lacks the credentials and integrity.
Nuff said..

See ya

Chuck S RAH-15/1 ret

"envy it seems to be about envy" chuck s