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Old December 17th 16, 02:17 AM posted to rec.aviation.soaring
Renny[_2_]
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On Friday, December 16, 2016 at 5:58:30 PM UTC-7, wrote:
On Friday, December 16, 2016 at 4:05:10 PM UTC-8, Andrzej Kobus wrote:


Self launching jet would not sell well in the USA due to noise issues.



Maybe. Many USA glider locations already have corporate jets flying in and out, and they are noisier than a jet glider. Places in the west like Hollister, Ely, Tonopah, Bishop, Inyokern, Santa Ynez, Minden and so on. I am not familiar with the rest of the country, but perhaps some gliding locations there are based at airports that take jets?


The Moriarty Municipal airport in New Mexico is also just fine for jets. We have corporate jets that visit on occasion and we have two jet gliders based at the airport. We also have jet gliders that visit during the soaring season, so if you've got a jet, a (quiet) FES, a 2-cycle, a rotary, a rocket assist or whatever... come visit....After all, we are used to loud noises.....Trinity Site is really not that far away....Thx - Renny
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Old December 17th 16, 12:39 PM posted to rec.aviation.soaring
Andrzej Kobus
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On Friday, December 16, 2016 at 9:18:01 PM UTC-5, Renny wrote:
On Friday, December 16, 2016 at 5:58:30 PM UTC-7, wrote:
On Friday, December 16, 2016 at 4:05:10 PM UTC-8, Andrzej Kobus wrote:


Self launching jet would not sell well in the USA due to noise issues..



Maybe. Many USA glider locations already have corporate jets flying in and out, and they are noisier than a jet glider. Places in the west like Hollister, Ely, Tonopah, Bishop, Inyokern, Santa Ynez, Minden and so on. I am not familiar with the rest of the country, but perhaps some gliding locations there are based at airports that take jets?


The Moriarty Municipal airport in New Mexico is also just fine for jets. We have corporate jets that visit on occasion and we have two jet gliders based at the airport. We also have jet gliders that visit during the soaring season, so if you've got a jet, a (quiet) FES, a 2-cycle, a rotary, a rocket assist or whatever... come visit....After all, we are used to loud noises....Trinity Site is really not that far away....Thx - Renny


This might be so in the west but not in heavily populated areas in the east.. If you have a self launcher you want to fly it from airport as close to you as possible. It is nice to roll the glider out of the hangar and go flying after a short drive. This means local airports in populated areas. The rate of climb of a jet glider is going to be such that you will be flying low at the end of the runway over people's houses. I witnessed a jet glider and I can tell you it is way more noisy than 737, plus 737 will climb rapidly getting away from the houses below quickly. The glider jet will be crawling up. Many clubs have noise complains because they fly their tow planes low after take off.
 




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