Average OLC flown distance by glider

On Tuesday, January 17, 2017 at 10:32:44 AM UTC-5, Jacopo Romei wrote:
Hello everybody,

as a newbie, I often find myself wondering
- how far a specific glider can be pushed
- how far a specific glider can be pushed by *its* average pilot

The second point is very important because, as obvious as it may sound, no glider "gets there" alone and it surely must be matched by a pilot with related skills.

By the way, end-to-end, I thought that crunching & aggregating some yearly OLC data, I could find a relevant answer.

As of today, on gliderreview.com every glider is shown along with its average flight lenght in the previous year. That allows for anyone to get both information: how far is any glider usually flown and, most important, how far outside of my comfort zone any glider is.

Sure this is based on OLC-uploaded flights only, but still any statistics is based on sampling and OLC to me is a quite reliable and representative data population. In other words: crunching 14 thousands flights will be enough for me to get the idea. ;-)

Enjoy!

--
Jacopo

That put a smile on my face. I'd never have thought to do this.

Can you post as well the longest OLC flight for any given model? I think that would be even more entertaining.

best,
Evan Ludeman / T8
(ASW-20s rule :-))

Can you post as well the longest OLC flight for any given model? I think that would be even more entertaining.

Coming down the pipeline:
- longest flight
- average flight year by year in the past: if a glider 10 years ago had a longer average this could mean lower prices today *because of the pilots flying it*, not because of inherent technical limits.

Stay tuned!

P.S. I need reviews guys! ;-) http://www.gliderreview.com/write-a-review

On Tuesday, January 17, 2017 at 12:16:51 PM UTC-7, Jacopo Romei wrote:
Can you post as well the longest OLC flight for any given model? I think that would be even more entertaining.

Coming down the pipeline:
- longest flight
- average flight year by year in the past: if a glider 10 years ago had a longer average this could mean lower prices today *because of the pilots flying it*, not because of inherent technical limits.

Stay tuned!

P.S. I need reviews guys! ;-) http://www.gliderreview.com/write-a-review

The Mini Nimbus is not there unfortunately.

Mike

On Wednesday, January 18, 2017 at 8:16:51 AM UTC+13, Jacopo Romei wrote:

Coming down the pipeline:
- longest flight
- average flight year by year in the past

I'm eager to see what the most successful pilots has done in one of the most reviled gliders (PW-5). I'd also like to see the longest flight in each year as this glider has fallen out of grace, and whether less successful pilots are flying it every year. Or maybe the average and longest flights will stay constant over time?

How about Bill Snead doing 841 km in his PW-5 on a straight out from near Austin, TX to Hugoton, KS. http://www.onlinecontest.org/olc-2.0...htId=445970755



On Tuesday, January 17, 2017 at 10:54:08 PM UTC-6, son_of_flubber wrote:
On Wednesday, January 18, 2017 at 8:16:51 AM UTC+13, Jacopo Romei wrote:

Coming down the pipeline:
- longest flight
- average flight year by year in the past

I'm eager to see what the most successful pilots has done in one of the most reviled gliders (PW-5). I'd also like to see the longest flight in each year as this glider has fallen out of grace, and whether less successful pilots are flying it every year. Or maybe the average and longest flights will stay constant over time?

On Wednesday, January 18, 2017 at 7:54:08 AM UTC+3, son_of_flubber wrote:
On Wednesday, January 18, 2017 at 8:16:51 AM UTC+13, Jacopo Romei wrote:

Coming down the pipeline:
- longest flight
- average flight year by year in the past

I'm eager to see what the most successful pilots has done in one of the most reviled gliders (PW-5). I'd also like to see the longest flight in each year as this glider has fallen out of grace, and whether less successful pilots are flying it every year. Or maybe the average and longest flights will stay constant over time?

At 156 km in his database, it's beating the ASK-21 and Grob 103, which everyone loves.

At 156 km in his database, it's beating
the ASK-21 and Grob 103, which everyone loves.

Yes Bruce.
This is the *exactly* the "coup de théâtre" I am looking for by letting everybody compare this data among gliders.

Try enjoying the comparing featu
http://www.gliderreview.com/comparin...arszawska-pw-5

Obviously that doesn't necessarily mean that ASK 21 is harder to fly far than PW 5 -- because ASK 21's average could be affected by many other factors -- but it *definitely* means that PW 5 is capable of flights *that* long, which may be unexpected for a rookie like me listening to rumors only.

A good mix of opinions, rumors and data: that's what I am looking for by means of GliderReview. Enjoy!

[I need reviews! ;-) http://www.gliderreview.com/write-a-review]

Ciao

--
Jacopo

On Wednesday, January 18, 2017 at 1:56:06 PM UTC+3, Jacopo Romei wrote:
At 156 km in his database, it's beating
the ASK-21 and Grob 103, which everyone loves.

Yes Bruce.
This is the *exactly* the "coup de théâtre" I am looking for by letting everybody compare this data among gliders.

Try enjoying the comparing featu
http://www.gliderreview.com/comparin...arszawska-pw-5

Obviously that doesn't necessarily mean that ASK 21 is harder to fly far than PW 5 -- because ASK 21's average could be affected by many other factors -- but it *definitely* means that PW 5 is capable of flights *that* long, which may be unexpected for a rookie like me listening to rumors only.

I don't know why it should be unexpected! The PW5 isn't as high performance a glider as a Discus or LS4 or even a Cirrus or Libelle, obviously. But it's very comparable to things such as the formerly much-loved Ka-6, in which lots of people used to regularly fly 300+ km.

I'm a pretty average pilot, but around 2000 I was taking a club PW5 to NZ contests with a dozen other PW5s and nearly as many Ka6s and tasks of 150 - 250 km. We had a lot of fun, and most people finished most of the tasks.

Bruce,

I was just describing the reason-why of the website feature, not discussing PW-5 performance. :-)

You seem the right person to review PW-5 though! Would you share your opinions about the ship in a review at the following link? http://www.gliderreview.com/glider/p...arszawska-pw-5

son_of_flubber,

I'm eager to see what the most successful pilots has done in one of the most reviled gliders (PW-5).


:-D I am eager too, but still GliderReview won't be covering all the possible data permutations about a glider, because its aim is *not* to be the next (and overlapping) "Glidopedia" but a tool to help choosing a glider to buy.

Stay tuned, though! :-)