looking for a set of ASW 19 ailerons

Your first step is probably to quantify the condition yours are in. From your description they sound pretty bad, but you probably ought to do a rigorous survey of the dips and sags to find how deep the worst ones really are. That way you know what you really have.

Your next step may be to contact the factory and see if they have any leftovers, or perhaps damaged ones from a factory repair. Ailerons that have been broken cleanly are probably easier to fix than the ones you describe.

You should probably also call all the Usual Suspects to see what they have in the rafters:

Eds Hollestelle (Solaire Canada)
Eastern Sailplane
JJ Sinclair
Williams Soaring
Robert Mudd in Moriarty
Fidel in Moriarty
Mark Grubb in Tehachapi

If worst comes to worst, I can show you how to make them; that is allowed here in the US under 14CFR§21.9(a)5, and may be allowed under similar Canadian rules. Basically, we'd take your existing ailerons, profile and paint them so they are nice and pretty, then make a set of splash molds off of those. Then you'd make replacements in the molds. Ideally we'd get the factory lamination plan from Schleicher, otherwise you'd have to tear apart your existing parts to figure out what's on the inside.

Thanks, Bob K.

I just spoke with Fidel. He does not have any ailerons for a '19. He
said that, based upon your description, he could repair them but it
would be expensive, though not as expensive as building a new set. Of
course, he would have to see them before he could make a cost estimate.

Good luck in your endeavor - the '19 is a great flying ship.

On 2/24/2017 5:52 PM, wrote:
Your first step is probably to quantify the condition yours are in. From your description they sound pretty bad, but you probably ought to do a rigorous survey of the dips and sags to find how deep the worst ones really are. That way you know what you really have.

Your next step may be to contact the factory and see if they have any leftovers, or perhaps damaged ones from a factory repair. Ailerons that have been broken cleanly are probably easier to fix than the ones you describe.

You should probably also call all the Usual Suspects to see what they have in the rafters:

Eds Hollestelle (Solaire Canada)
Eastern Sailplane
JJ Sinclair
Williams Soaring
Robert Mudd in Moriarty
Fidel in Moriarty
Mark Grubb in Tehachapi

If worst comes to worst, I can show you how to make them; that is allowed here in the US under 14CFR§21.9(a)5, and may be allowed under similar Canadian rules. Basically, we'd take your existing ailerons, profile and paint them so they are nice and pretty, then make a set of splash molds off of those. Then you'd make replacements in the molds. Ideally we'd get the factory lamination plan from Schleicher, otherwise you'd have to tear apart your existing parts to figure out what's on the inside.

Thanks, Bob K.

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Dan, 5J

Hey Kerry, "Glider is in Canada but we would be happy if we found a set in the Artic."

Sooooo, in Canada then?

Good luck getting a Canadian inspector to allow use of a component that doesn't have paperwork showing complete history including total hours. I had a repaired rudder for a G-102 that I yellow tagged.................not good enough, because I couldn't prove the total hours on the rudder.
BTW, I got the rudder from the Vancover Soaring Club.................buyers?..........the Vancover Soaring Club!
JJ

On Friday, March 3, 2017 at 6:28:29 AM UTC-8, wrote:
Good luck getting a Canadian inspector to allow use of a component that doesn't have paperwork showing complete history including total hours. I had a repaired rudder for a G-102 that I yellow tagged.................not good enough, because I couldn't prove the total hours on the rudder.
BTW, I got the rudder from the Vancover Soaring Club.................buyers?..........the Vancover Soaring Club!
JJ

Yeah JJ - I'm still sorry for wasting your time on that one but the only AMO we had to work with at the time just wouldn't let it "fly" sadly. We ended up having to wait for (and pay for) a new one from Lindner in the end.

Yeah, we got some NAZI inspectors down here, too!
BTW, don't believe I mentioned it, but just because a ship is "totaled", by the insurance company, doesn't mean it is "destroyed". Someone in your club told Transport Canada that the G-102 was "destroyed" and they De-registered it. I had to write to Transport Canada ant tell them it the ship wasn't "destroyed", it was only flown through a fence and in fact it had been imported to the US. Requested they tell our FAA about all this. Needless to say, this all took some time, but everything was straightened out by the time I got it back together.
Cheers,
JJ