Could the Press Grow a Spine?

We have repeatedly demonstrated to you in this forum evidence that
Bush had five years and three months of six year commitment.

What I know is that there is a 16 month break in his service, and that's a
no-no.

Walt

"WalterM140" wrote in message
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What I know is that there is a 16 month break in his service, and that's a
no-no.


No, you don't know that, you believe that. There is a difference.

Steven P. McNicoll wrote:

No, you don't know that, you believe that. There is a difference.

I'm not sure why you guys are wasting your time with this "Walt" guy. This is
the same brain washed lunatic that claims Bush, as CinC, was personally
responsible for Abu Garib, but Clinton was not responsible for Somalia, but
Bush 41 was. How can argue with "logic" like that?


BUFDRVR

"Stay on the bomb run boys, I'm gonna get those bomb doors open if it harelips
everyone on Bear Creek"

(BUFDRVR) wrote in message ...
Steven P. McNicoll wrote:

No, you don't know that, you believe that. There is a difference.

I'm not sure why you guys are wasting your time with this "Walt" guy. This is
the same brain washed lunatic that claims Bush, as CinC, was personally
responsible for Abu Garib, but Clinton was not responsible for Somalia, but
Bush 41 was. How can argue with "logic" like that?


If Americans in Somalia were inspired by Clinton to committ crimes
then Clinton would be just as responsible for those crimes as Bush
would be for crimes he inspired at Abu Graib.

To my knowledge. Clinton never declared that the US would not
honor the Geneva conventions. Clinton never tried to create
ad hoc courts to conduct secret trials, in violation of both
the US Constitution and the Geneva Conventions. Clinton's
secretary of defense never ordered Americans to violate the
UCMJ or the Geneva Conventions. Clinton's Secretary of
Defense never ordered that prisoners be hidden from the ICRC.
Clinton's Justice Department never prepared a memo to tell him
that torture is OK, or at least you can get away with it.

If the press grows a spine, they'll interview the UN High
Comissioner for Human Rights. And someone will ask Rumsfeld
if he ever actually read the Geneva Conventions.

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FF

Fred the Red Shirt wrote:

If Americans in Somalia were inspired by Clinton to committ crimes
then Clinton would be just as responsible for those crimes as Bush
would be for crimes he inspired at Abu Graib.

Blah,blah, blah. You politically motivated zelots won't ever stop. The issue
wasn't the ridiculous notion you've put fourth above, it was one of "ultimate
responsibility" versus "personal responsibility". Your fellow left wing lunatic
said Bush was "personally responsible" for Abu Garib because he was CinC. When
I applied that litmus test to the fiasco of Somalia circa 1993, he claimed
Clinton was not responsible *at all* (ultimately or personally), instead he
placed blame on Bush 41. If this is sound reasoning to you (and I'm quite sure
it will be) you are short on the ability to think rationally.


BUFDRVR

"Stay on the bomb run boys, I'm gonna get those bomb doors open if it harelips
everyone on Bear Creek"

(BUFDRVR) wrote in message ...


Got a message ID we can use to compare what you say he said
with what he said?

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FF

Fred the Red Shirt wrote:

Got a message ID we can use to compare what you say he said
with what he said?

No, it was a series of exchanges under a thread topic I've long
forgotten...along with "Walt".


BUFDRVR

"Stay on the bomb run boys, I'm gonna get those bomb doors open if it harelips
everyone on Bear Creek"

(BUFDRVR) wrote in message ...

Blah,blah, blah.
...
BUFDRVR


That about covers it.

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FF

(BUFDRVR) wrote in message ...
Steven P. McNicoll wrote:

No, you don't know that, you believe that. There is a difference.

I'm not sure why you guys are wasting your time with this "Walt" guy. This is
the same brain washed lunatic that claims Bush, as CinC, was personally
responsible for Abu Garib, but Clinton was not responsible for Somalia, but
Bush 41 was. How can argue with "logic" like that?


Got a mesage ID you can share with us?

I don't remember exatly what Walt said but *I* blame GHB
for sending American Troops into Somalia without any
exit strategy. Clearly GHB was not concerned with how
to get our people out of that situation and the fact that
Clinton fell into the trap and made the situation worse
does nothing to exhonorate GHB of using our troops as
pawns to spite Clinton for wining the election.

At least some good did come of it. For a time, the
humanitarian relief effort was a success.

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FF

Fred the Red Shirt wrote:

I don't remember exatly what Walt said but *I* blame GHB
for sending American Troops into Somalia without any
exit strategy.

Bush 41 *did* have an exit strategy. Bush 41 was interested in providing U.S.
forces for the protection of food supplies. Once the threat of famine had
passed, U.N. forces would slowly begin replacing U.S. forces. It was at this
transfer stage that Clinton changed the mission from humanitarian relief to
"nation building". Neither the U.N. forces nor the U.S. forces were prepared
for that new mission.

Clearly GHB was not concerned with how
to get our people out of that situation

Not surprisingly, your partisan view of the world makes things less clear.
"Clearly" Bush 41 did have an exit strategy and it was in the process of of
being executed when the new President changed the mission.

and the fact that
Clinton fell into the trap and made the situation worse
does nothing to exhonorate GHB of using our troops as
pawns to spite Clinton for wining the election.

What a joke. The minute after Clinton was innaugurated he had the power to
withdraw every U.S. solider from Mogadishu. Trying to claim Bush somehow put
Clinton in a position to screw up in Somalia is, once again, ridiculous
partisan crap. All Clinton had to do was stick with the Bush draw down plan in
Somalia and everything would have been fine. Yes, Adid was getting more
agressive, but the worst of the famine was behind them and there was nothing
anyone could do to build any kind of government in Somalia.

At least some good did come of it. For a time, the
humanitarian relief effort was a success.

Which was all Bush 41 was planning to do.


BUFDRVR

"Stay on the bomb run boys, I'm gonna get those bomb doors open if it harelips
everyone on Bear Creek"