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Old March 8th 17, 10:59 AM posted to rec.aviation.soaring
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On Wed, 08 Mar 2017 01:08:36 -0800, krasw wrote:

Last IGC decided to make electric self-launch capability compulsory for
13.5m class,

So, who will be first to fit a FES to a PW-5?

Doesn't this make the World Class into a defunct, historic curiosity
since it has effectively been replaced by the 13.5m class?

Historical moment?

Definitely!


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Old March 8th 17, 11:28 AM posted to rec.aviation.soaring
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keskiviikko 8. maaliskuuta 2017 13.02.36 UTC+2 Martin Gregorie kirjoitti:
On Wed, 08 Mar 2017 01:08:36 -0800, krasw wrote:

Last IGC decided to make electric self-launch capability compulsory for
13.5m class,

So, who will be first to fit a FES to a PW-5?

Doesn't this make the World Class into a defunct, historic curiosity
since it has effectively been replaced by the 13.5m class?

Historical moment?

Definitely!


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Thinking of PW-5 nose ground clearance, fitting FES would make a rather expensive lawnmower. But isn't there a UK company that is in the process of fitting not only jet but ELECTRIC engine driving wheels of glider that has PW-5 wings? And no, I believe IGC did not have this in mind when deciding on "electrical self launching" capability.
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Old March 8th 17, 01:08 PM posted to rec.aviation.soaring
Martin Gregorie[_5_]
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On Wed, 08 Mar 2017 03:28:19 -0800, krasw wrote:

Thinking of PW-5 nose ground clearance, fitting FES would make a rather
expensive lawnmower.

True enough - my excuse is that its years since I've seen one.

But isn't there a UK company that is in the process
of fitting not only jet but ELECTRIC engine driving wheels of glider
that has PW-5 wings? And no, I believe IGC did not have this in mind
when deciding on "electrical self launching" capability.

I remember seeing adverts and articles about that, again some time back
and nothing recently, so I can only assume that the project imploded.
IIRC the guy behind it was at one time the UK AC-4 agent: doesn't have a
lot of luck, does he?

Thinking about the AC-4M, I wonder if would it be possible to electrify
one by replacing its pop-up IC engine and fuel tank with a brushless
motor and battery. Even of possible, I suspect it would be left in the
dust behind the current 13.5m electric self-launchers, so a fun project
if ultimately futile.


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Old March 8th 17, 04:46 PM posted to rec.aviation.soaring
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On Wednesday, March 8, 2017 at 8:11:00 AM UTC-5, Martin Gregorie wrote:
On Wed, 08 Mar 2017 03:28:19 -0800, krasw wrote:

Thinking of PW-5 nose ground clearance, fitting FES would make a rather
expensive lawnmower.

True enough - my excuse is that its years since I've seen one.

But isn't there a UK company that is in the process
of fitting not only jet but ELECTRIC engine driving wheels of glider
that has PW-5 wings? And no, I believe IGC did not have this in mind
when deciding on "electrical self launching" capability.



http://www.proairsport.com/news.php


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Old March 8th 17, 08:50 PM posted to rec.aviation.soaring
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On Wed, 08 Mar 2017 08:46:56 -0800, Dan Daly wrote:

On Wednesday, March 8, 2017 at 8:11:00 AM UTC-5, Martin Gregorie wrote:
On Wed, 08 Mar 2017 03:28:19 -0800, krasw wrote:

Thinking of PW-5 nose ground clearance, fitting FES would make a
rather expensive lawnmower.

True enough - my excuse is that its years since I've seen one.

But isn't there a UK company that is in the process of fitting not
only jet but ELECTRIC engine driving wheels of glider that has PW-5
wings? And no, I believe IGC did not have this in mind when deciding
on "electrical self launching" capability.



http://www.proairsport.com/news.php


Good to see its still progressing. Some dimensions and performance
estimates would be nice.


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Old August 8th 17, 05:28 PM posted to rec.aviation.soaring
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On Wednesday, 8 March 2017 16:46:58 UTC, Dan Daly wrote:
On Wednesday, March 8, 2017 at 8:11:00 AM UTC-5, Martin Gregorie wrote:
On Wed, 08 Mar 2017 03:28:19 -0800, krasw wrote:

Thinking of PW-5 nose ground clearance, fitting FES would make a rather
expensive lawnmower.

True enough - my excuse is that its years since I've seen one.

But isn't there a UK company that is in the process
of fitting not only jet but ELECTRIC engine driving wheels of glider
that has PW-5 wings? And no, I believe IGC did not have this in mind
when deciding on "electrical self launching" capability.



http://www.proairsport.com/news.php


The company was wound up in a solvent liquidation, having failed to raise sufficient funds to complete the project. I believe the main director is attempting to resuscitate the project. It would have been the cheapest self launching glider by far, at the expense of considerably less good glide performance than the Silent or other newer 13.5 m gliders.
 




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