Seminole Lake Gliderport Hangars

Sorry Rich, but thats unfortunately the case. I'm assuming that you did a lot of work to support Sean's goal of brining "glider racing" to the US with the Seminole Lakes Grand Prix, but as you'll see below, Sean is well known for attacking those he publicly claims to support.

It looks like Sean has gotten more sophisticated and is posting from Google's web interface to mask his IP address, but you can see the thread where Sean created an alias to attack Paul Remde and Daryll was able to track him down via IP he

https://groups.google.com/forum/#!ms...M/DnSveMYkCAAJ

Similar to his attacks on you, he created a new alias as many of his other alias' have already been uncovered. Google groups will show you that asw20pilot has only posted regarding Seminole Lake.

Then take a look at the thread here where the real Sean congratulates Paul for being almost 50% of the way to his goal:

https://groups.google.com/forum/#!msg/rec.aviation.soaring/We1RwUZ4zdw/KTp8uP8ZHmUJ;context-place=searchin/rec.aviation.soaring/paul$20remde$20cumulus$20soaring%7Csort:relevance

We can also take a look at his language to see that its the same sentence structures that the real Sean uses. All of the key items he wants to highlight are included in quotes. For example from this thread:

What else is included in your "5 year plan"?

Other examples from other threads I randomly pulled:

Unfortunately, we are being told “just be happy� using
the old version until (wink, wink) the XC Soar folks..."bow" like the
others to our divine power! :-)

Well, we have been "standing by" for three months now...

He also uses 4 (and almost always 4) exclamation points for emphasis:

From this thread:

it won't happen anytime soon at that rate!!!

Here is one message:

Just amazing how those PW-5's were produced at affordable prices!!!
Wow!!!!

And here is an nice excerpt where he uses both in one sentence:

Good morning "Turn Area Task only" not racing fans!!!

I've been reading res for 15+ years and I don't know of anyone else that uses four exclamation points, let alone in almost every message like Sean. Now, unless someone is taking the time to a) malign you and b) put in the effort to copy Sean's sentence structure exactly, asw20 is Sean. Its just a continuation of a pattern of behavior thats well identified. Just because he is your friend in person, and when real Sean is posting, does not mean he is above trying to destroy your character while cowardly hiding behind aliases.




On Wednesday, May 17, 2017 at 7:11:58 AM UTC-4, Rich Owen wrote:
I can tell you that ASW20 is not the Sean (Fidler) that I know. In business you cannot please every customer that walks in the door. Sometimes it's due to weather, aircraft mechanical or simply an employee that had a bad day. The vast majority of pilots are a fun group to be around. People who use the anonymity of the internet to post less than positive thoughts should seek professional help. There must be an underlying reason why ASW20 has such a difficulty with Seminole Lake Gliderport. After trying to engage him via email and on Rec Aviation Soaring, I'm no longer going to respond to his posts. I would ask the rest of our friends to let his threads die on the vine. His rants don't deserve our time as a group of aviation enthusiasts.

Sincerely,
Rich Owen
Vice President
Seminole Flying and Soaring

On Wednesday, May 17, 2017 at 12:08:43 PM UTC-4, Kevin Christner wrote:
Sorry Rich, but thats unfortunately the case. I'm assuming that you did a lot of work to support Sean's goal of brining "glider racing" to the US with the Seminole Lakes Grand Prix, but as you'll see below, Sean is well known for attacking those he publicly claims to support.

It looks like Sean has gotten more sophisticated and is posting from Google's web interface to mask his IP address, but you can see the thread where Sean created an alias to attack Paul Remde and Daryll was able to track him down via IP he

https://groups.google.com/forum/#!ms...M/DnSveMYkCAAJ

Similar to his attacks on you, he created a new alias as many of his other alias' have already been uncovered. Google groups will show you that asw20pilot has only posted regarding Seminole Lake.

Then take a look at the thread here where the real Sean congratulates Paul for being almost 50% of the way to his goal:

https://groups.google.com/forum/#!msg/rec.aviation.soaring/We1RwUZ4zdw/KTp8uP8ZHmUJ;context-place=searchin/rec.aviation.soaring/paul$20remde$20cumulus$20soaring%7Csort:relevance

We can also take a look at his language to see that its the same sentence structures that the real Sean uses. All of the key items he wants to highlight are included in quotes. For example from this thread:

What else is included in your "5 year plan"?

Other examples from other threads I randomly pulled:

Unfortunately, we are being told “just be happy� using
the old version until (wink, wink) the XC Soar folks..."bow" like the
others to our divine power! :-)

Well, we have been "standing by" for three months now...

He also uses 4 (and almost always 4) exclamation points for emphasis:

From this thread:

it won't happen anytime soon at that rate!!!

Here is one message:

Just amazing how those PW-5's were produced at affordable prices!!!
Wow!!!!

And here is an nice excerpt where he uses both in one sentence:

Good morning "Turn Area Task only" not racing fans!!!

I've been reading res for 15+ years and I don't know of anyone else that uses four exclamation points, let alone in almost every message like Sean. Now, unless someone is taking the time to a) malign you and b) put in the effort to copy Sean's sentence structure exactly, asw20 is Sean. Its just a continuation of a pattern of behavior thats well identified. Just because he is your friend in person, and when real Sean is posting, does not mean he is above trying to destroy your character while cowardly hiding behind aliases.




On Wednesday, May 17, 2017 at 7:11:58 AM UTC-4, Rich Owen wrote:
I can tell you that ASW20 is not the Sean (Fidler) that I know. In business you cannot please every customer that walks in the door. Sometimes it's due to weather, aircraft mechanical or simply an employee that had a bad day. The vast majority of pilots are a fun group to be around. People who use the anonymity of the internet to post less than positive thoughts should seek professional help. There must be an underlying reason why ASW20 has such a difficulty with Seminole Lake Gliderport. After trying to engage him via email and on Rec Aviation Soaring, I'm no longer going to respond to his posts. I would ask the rest of our friends to let his threads die on the vine. His rants don't deserve our time as a group of aviation enthusiasts..

Sincerely,
Rich Owen
Vice President
Seminole Flying and Soaring

Kevin, I think you see Sean everywhere. You did not show any prove that this alias belongs to Sean, exclamation mark or quotes, really?

I think, I have a good suspension who this alias belongs to and I think Rich might have the same suspicion, but unless there is evidence it is just that a suspicion. I can only tell you the person I am thinking about had a run in with both the Seminole Gliderport owner and Sean. Yep! You hear this right, so be careful with posts like this one if you have no evidence.

Not sure why some people are so hung up on bashing someplace. I can think of lots of better things to do with my spare time.

I hadn't been to Seminole Lake in over 20 years. I towed one year for the seniors.

I showed up this winter, checked out, and took one of their shiny gliders up for a couple of flights. Paid my bill, and went home happy. I only had a few hours to spend, and I enjoyed it very much.

I'll be stopping by in future years with an RV, and plan to stay a while. It's a nice place.

JP

I think, I have a good suspension who this alias belongs to and I think Rich might have the same suspicion, but unless there is evidence it is just that a suspicion. I can only tell you the person I am thinking about had a run in with both the Seminole Gliderport owner and Sean. Yep! You hear this right, so be careful with posts like this one if you have no evidence.

Analysis of textual language is considered evidence and used in court all of the time. For example the text of a letter with an unknown author is compared to one from the suspect to determine if the same person wrote them. It is accepted testimony from expert witnesses for the jury to decide. You may not find it convincing, but you didn't find it convincing when Daryll tracked down Sean's IP address to one of his aliases earlier. Plenty of other well informed people can read the tea-leaves.

And let me present the evidence to you that your suspicion is incorrect. Sean got his aliases a little confused and had asw20 support him in the US Team list thread:

So let me get this straight. Am I reading this correctly that a pilot with a lower ranking number can be selected over a pilot with a higher ranking number based on votes?

Sorry, if you win a national contest and your ranking is 100.0, you should have first dibs on representing the United States...you won the right to do that.

Is the SSA really going to let "politics" decide who gets to go? What the hell kind of crap is this?

So we SUCK as a country in the world championship, and we are going to let lower performing pilots represent the country - based on votes? WOW!

So are you saying asw20, an alias that has now posted a grand total of six times about Seminole Lakes and once about the US Team, is so smart that since everyone knows he had a run in with Sean, he will cover his tracks by being a Sean ditto-head on another thread?

One personal note, your continued defense of someone who threatened to come to my home armed with a gun, put me in a straight jacket and torture me is only further enabling Sean's bullying of me an others (like Seminole Lake, where you apparently fly). Enablers are just as guilty as the one doing the deed.

On Thursday, May 18, 2017 at 9:01:53 AM UTC-4, Kevin Christner wrote:
I think, I have a good suspension who this alias belongs to and I think Rich might have the same suspicion, but unless there is evidence it is just that a suspicion. I can only tell you the person I am thinking about had a run in with both the Seminole Gliderport owner and Sean. Yep! You hear this right, so be careful with posts like this one if you have no evidence.

Analysis of textual language is considered evidence and used in court all of the time. For example the text of a letter with an unknown author is compared to one from the suspect to determine if the same person wrote them. It is accepted testimony from expert witnesses for the jury to decide. You may not find it convincing, but you didn't find it convincing when Daryll tracked down Sean's IP address to one of his aliases earlier. Plenty of other well informed people can read the tea-leaves.

And let me present the evidence to you that your suspicion is incorrect. Sean got his aliases a little confused and had asw20 support him in the US Team list thread:

So let me get this straight. Am I reading this correctly that a pilot with a lower ranking number can be selected over a pilot with a higher ranking number based on votes?

Sorry, if you win a national contest and your ranking is 100.0, you should have first dibs on representing the United States...you won the right to do that.

Is the SSA really going to let "politics" decide who gets to go? What the hell kind of crap is this?

So we SUCK as a country in the world championship, and we are going to let lower performing pilots represent the country - based on votes? WOW!

So are you saying asw20, an alias that has now posted a grand total of six times about Seminole Lakes and once about the US Team, is so smart that since everyone knows he had a run in with Sean, he will cover his tracks by being a Sean ditto-head on another thread?

One personal note, your continued defense of someone who threatened to come to my home armed with a gun, put me in a straight jacket and torture me is only further enabling Sean's bullying of me an others (like Seminole Lake, where you apparently fly). Enablers are just as guilty as the one doing the deed.

Kevin, you have real problems. I simply pointed to you that you have zero evidence, but yet you are quick to name someone on a public forum. You need to get a life and move on. It will do a lot of good for your health if you do so. Since now you attacked me I no longer consider your posts worth replying.

Kevin might work for the liberal media, as he presents false claims and no evidence as "truth"!!!!