Power Flarm with ADS-B out?

On Thursday, 18 May 2017 08:50:05 UTC-4, Dave Nadler wrote:
On Wednesday, May 17, 2017 at 10:00:01 PM UTC-4, son_of_flubber wrote:
On Wednesday, May 17, 2017 at 8:47:36 PM UTC-4, 2G wrote:
If you are thinking about installing ADS-B to avoid mid-airs
with GA aircraft you will be sadly disappointed.

Some of the folks with ADS-B will become lax about visually scanning
for traffic.

If you think they are scanning now, you could be more than disappointed...

I was in a thermal near my home airport with two other gliders; we were spread out about 500' vertical from each other. A Cessna 172 breezed through the centre of our group, maybe 75 metres from me.

Power pilots generally are unaware of the existence of gliders. It's sad
to think that a widely accepted excuse for killing someone (glider,
motorcycle, bicyclist...) is: "I didn't expect to see a (name your victim).

On 5/18/2017 7:38 AM, C-FFKQ (42) wrote:
On Thursday, 18 May 2017 08:50:05 UTC-4, Dave Nadler wrote:
On Wednesday, May 17, 2017 at 10:00:01 PM UTC-4, son_of_flubber wrote:
On Wednesday, May 17, 2017 at 8:47:36 PM UTC-4, 2G wrote:
If you are thinking about installing ADS-B to avoid mid-airs
with GA aircraft you will be sadly disappointed.
Some of the folks with ADS-B will become lax about visually scanning
for traffic.
If you think they are scanning now, you could be more than disappointed...
I was in a thermal near my home airport with two other gliders; we were spread out about 500' vertical from each other. A Cessna 172 breezed through the centre of our group, maybe 75 metres from me.

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Dan, 5J

On Wednesday, May 17, 2017 at 10:00:01 PM UTC-4, son_of_flubber wrote:
Some of the folks with ADS-B will become lax about visually scanning
for traffic.

I've was giving our L/D-impaired-brethren the benefit of the doubt. I assume that power traffic does not see me. I've been overtaken close by on my six.

ADS-B will make this problem worse for unequipped gliders and better for TABS-equipped gliders.

I was in a thermal near my home airport with two other gliders; we were spread out about 500' vertical from each other. A Cessna 172 breezed through the centre of our group, maybe 75 metres from me.

Thank you for sharing this with us. This supports my personal strong conviction that the glider ADS-B exemption doesn't make much sense. Either everybody, yes, any aircraft - power, gliders, balloons, drones - is equipped or the system is lame by definition. I don't mention geese, hawks and other birds because they do quite a good job avoiding us with our low speeds, which they sometimes can't do when challenged by airliners.

BTW, is there any talk about placing the ADS-B signals on high towers marked on aviation maps? That would be an interesting add-on to the system.

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BTW, is there any talk about placing the ADS-B signals on high towers marked on aviation maps? That would be an interesting add-on to the system.

OK, I have found the answer myself. No need to include high towers/obstacles in the ADS-B system as they belong to the map information and many good software pieces actually give that information in flight with respective audio warnings, if necessary. Still, who knows, maybe drones could be helped in that way in the future?

My spontaneous question was a result of watching those recent amazing flights along the ridge with hundreds of power windmills.