Could the Press Grow a Spine?

"Jarg" wrote in message .com...
"w.a. manning" wrote in message
om...
sounds alot like the current administration:

there are WMDs. repeat, ad inifinitum.
iraq has links to al qaeda. repeat, ad inifinitum.
the list goes on, ad infinitum.



Of course they have found WMD (or did you not catch that?),

Tell us what was found, and where it was found.

As I recall, some ineffective 15-year-old Sarin shells that appear to
have been lost in inventory and mistaken for HE were found

As you will recall, GWB claimed that WMDs were currently in
production in Iraq in 2002. We found no evidence that WMDs
were currently in production in Iraq in 2002. We found no
production facilites. We found no residues indicating
recent production.

GWB claimed that Iraw was developing nucular weapons. We found
no evidence of a nucular weapons program in Iraq. Clearly the
administration was not mistaken on this point because during the
invasion and for a few weeks after Bagdad was secured the Bush
adminstration made no effort to secure the Iraqi nuclear facilities.
Obviously if the Bush administration had thought it even slightly
probably that there were fissile materials or nuclear weapons
components in Iraq those would have been high priority targets
for search and seizure. IN fact, despite being fed with false
information in an obvious attempt to derail the UN inspection
program, the IAEA had declared Iraq to be in compliance in
regards to nuclear weapons. The Bush administration still will
not allow IAEA inspectors to revisit the Iraqi facilities to
deterine if any of the materials they inventoried had been
removed. Why not?

How about VX? Was Iraq was manufacturing and stockpiling VX in
the Fall of 2002? We found no VX. We found no facilites
for making VX. We found no residues indicationg VX had been
made in recent years.

How about anthrax? Was Iraq producing and weaponizing anthrax
spores in the Fall of 2002? We found none. We found no facilites
for producing or weaponizing anthrax spores. In 2001 we were attacked
here in the US with a strain of anthrax developed at Ft Dietrich in
Maryland there has never been any evidence of a foreign source
for any chemical or biological weapon attack in the US.

How about botulinum toxin? We found no facilites for producing
botulinum toxin. One doctor came forward with a specimin of the
botulinum baccilus that he had been keeping at home. There are
about a half dozen varieties of this bacilus. All produce highly
toxic material. The toxins they produce vary in toxicity by a
factor of about 100. The least toxic of these is used theraputically,
one supposes that he best choice for WMDs would be the most toxic
variety. The specimen the doctor had was of the least toxic
variety.

How about mustard gas? Iraq declared some mustard gas shelles that
had survived the 1991 war. The Un had cataloged them but inspectors
found a discrepency on the books amounting to about 500 shells.
While not enough to be militarily significant, it remained an ongoing
concern up until the invasion.

I do not recall anything related to WMDS being found in Iraq that
was worth killing a single person over.

they have found
links to Al Quada (guess you missed that one too)

Define link. Tells us about those links (plural).

There is a relationship between me and Al Queda. That relationship is
as follows: I want everyone in Al Quaeda to die as quickly as possible.

Saddam Hussein certainly had a relationship with Osama Bin Laden.
Bin Laden asked him for help, and Hussein turned him down. That
was the nature of their relationship, was it not?

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FF

In article ,
(Fred the Red Shirt) wrote:



How about botulinum toxin? We found no facilites for producing
botulinum toxin. One doctor came forward with a specimin of the
botulinum baccilus that he had been keeping at home. There are
about a half dozen varieties of this bacilus.

It would be more correct to say there are six forms of the toxin, A-G.
There could well be more than one substrain that produces the same
toxin.

All produce highly toxic material.

Not all botulinus toxins affect humans, or have a very low incidence of
affecting humans -- especially C&D.

The toxins they produce vary in toxicity by a
factor of about 100. The least toxic of these is used theraputically,

No, the most toxic is Type A, which is also the active ingredient in the
therapeutic drug Botox.

one supposes that he best choice for WMDs would be the most toxic
variety. The specimen the doctor had was of the least toxic
variety.

That being said, I have seen no reports indicating weaponization after
1991.

HB wrote among other things:

No, the most toxic is Type A, which is also the active ingredient in the
therapeutic drug Botox.


Jeeze guys! Can we leave Kerry out of this one?

Oxmoron1

Howard Berkowitz wrote in message ...
In article ,
(Fred the Red Shirt) wrote:



The least toxic of these is used theraputically,

No, the most toxic is Type A, which is also the active ingredient in the
therapeutic drug Botox.

Thanks.

But: http://www.cignamedicare.com/partb/l...u/96-003-1.htm

tells us that A and B are both approved by the FDA for theraputic
use.

Here is a more comprehensive overview:

http://www.emedicine.com/pmr/topic216.htm

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FF