Interest in a 20 Meter Multiseat Class National Contest for 2018?

On Wednesday, May 31, 2017 at 6:16:40 PM UTC-7, Ron Gleason wrote:
On Wednesday, 31 May 2017 18:29:25 UTC-6, wrote:
I would like to fly this contest if I can get the Harris Hill Duo or another suitable glider, Great idea.
Sean Murphy
XC

I am not interested in contest and I do not believe it is in the best interest if the SSA Contest Rules Committee to have yet another class for a Nationals competition. IF this held will take away from folks that would participate in the 2018 Sports Nationals, which are typically dominate by Duo's and Arcus'es?

Oh wait we do not know when or where the 2018 Nationals are being held, how can we plan.

IMO class creep is bad for the competition scene with the SSA. What is next the folks asking for $$ to go to the World 20 Meter competition?

#classcreepisbad


Bif, the best of luck putting this together!
20m two-seater is quite a popular class internationally. It deserves a contest and records. There are about 100 20m two-seaters registered in the USA including Arcus, Duo, ASG32, DG1000. Do you think you can get a quarter of them?

What two-seater flying should be:
Check the spelling, but I think Heinz' first comment after he and Karin did their first Duo flight at Ely was:
"WOOOOOOOOOOOOHOOOOOOOOO!"

YO, tell us more about the first 11m nationals. Is GBSC hosting? Will it be in February? Perhaps there's less rain then.
Jim

On Wednesday, May 31, 2017 at 10:21:47 PM UTC-4, AS wrote:
On Wednesday, May 31, 2017 at 7:44:36 PM UTC-4, wrote:
The SSA Rules Committee would like to gauge pilot interest in attending a potential 20 Meter Multiseat Class National Competition if it were hosted at Mifflin in 2018. The Rules Committee has determined that we need to have at least 12 confirmed entries if we are to proceed. Furthermore, time is of the essence if we are to have a chance of making this contest happen. If you would be definitely interested in attending this new National Contest, please respond to this thread or email me at as soon as possible.

Regards,

Bif Huss “H7�
SSA Contest Rules Committee

Would this a handicapped contest?
Uli
'AS'

This class is planned to have limited handicapping with a handicap range from Arcus to abut .05 greater numerical handicap so as to try to draw Duo's, some DG 2 seaters, and possibly others.
UH

On Wednesday, May 31, 2017 at 7:54:02 PM UTC-4, Ron Gleason wrote:
On Wednesday, 31 May 2017 17:44:36 UTC-6, wrote:
The SSA Rules Committee would like to gauge pilot interest in attending a potential 20 Meter Multiseat Class National Competition if it were hosted at Mifflin in 2018. The Rules Committee has determined that we need to have at least 12 confirmed entries if we are to proceed. Furthermore, time is of the essence if we are to have a chance of making this contest happen. If you would be definitely interested in attending this new National Contest, please respond to this thread or email me at as soon as possible.

Regards,

Bif Huss “H7�
SSA Contest Rules Committee

Sorry to hijack your thread Bif but what about announcing and listing on the SSA Racing Calendar the other 2018 contests? I know folks have submitted applications but nothing is on the calendar. Can you please shed some light on what is going on? If you do not know who should I be bugging?

THanks

Check with John Lubon, chair of the site selection committee.
UH

I would love to attend in our DG-1000T. Would.consider putting a junior in the front seat for the event if he/she had enough ridge experience. I'd be in the back. 😃

Rich

I feel the 20m class is one of the best ways to develop new or beginning race pilots.

I flew with G Dale in the NZ Nationals and the 45 hours I spent in the cockpit with him were the most informative and satisfying flying I have done in my 11,000+ hours of flying. We could discuss tactics, girls, decision making, and the thought process of one of the most experienced glider pilots in the world all in real time.

TK

On Thursday, 1 June 2017 05:02:33 UTC-6, wrote:
On Wednesday, May 31, 2017 at 7:54:02 PM UTC-4, Ron Gleason wrote:
On Wednesday, 31 May 2017 17:44:36 UTC-6, wrote:
The SSA Rules Committee would like to gauge pilot interest in attending a potential 20 Meter Multiseat Class National Competition if it were hosted at Mifflin in 2018. The Rules Committee has determined that we need to have at least 12 confirmed entries if we are to proceed. Furthermore, time is of the essence if we are to have a chance of making this contest happen. If you would be definitely interested in attending this new National Contest, please respond to this thread or email me at as soon as possible.

Regards,

Bif Huss “H7�
SSA Contest Rules Committee

Sorry to hijack your thread Bif but what about announcing and listing on the SSA Racing Calendar the other 2018 contests? I know folks have submitted applications but nothing is on the calendar. Can you please shed some light on what is going on? If you do not know who should I be bugging?

THanks

Check with John Lubon, chair of the site selection committee.
UH

Thanks Hank, that is the name I was looking for

On Thursday, 1 June 2017 05:00:26 UTC-6, wrote:
On Wednesday, May 31, 2017 at 10:21:47 PM UTC-4, AS wrote:
On Wednesday, May 31, 2017 at 7:44:36 PM UTC-4, wrote:
The SSA Rules Committee would like to gauge pilot interest in attending a potential 20 Meter Multiseat Class National Competition if it were hosted at Mifflin in 2018. The Rules Committee has determined that we need to have at least 12 confirmed entries if we are to proceed. Furthermore, time is of the essence if we are to have a chance of making this contest happen. If you would be definitely interested in attending this new National Contest, please respond to this thread or email me at as soon as possible.

Regards,

Bif Huss “H7�
SSA Contest Rules Committee

Would this a handicapped contest?
Uli
'AS'

This class is planned to have limited handicapping with a handicap range from Arcus to abut .05 greater numerical handicap so as to try to draw Duo's, some DG 2 seaters, and possibly others.

UH

I checked the results of 2016 Rules Committee survey and see that after considering all replies the Rules Committee stated they would look at holding a 2018 20 meter two place Nationals. Sorry I missed this before.

Best of luck

Oh gawd, Uli wants to race the Spaghetti Bomber! That's enough on it's own to justify a Bus Class (as long as I don't have to help assemble it).

On Thursday, June 1, 2017 at 6:04:22 PM UTC-4, WB wrote:
Oh gawd, Uli wants to race the Spaghetti Bomber! That's enough on it's own to justify a Bus Class (as long as I don't have to help assemble it).

Ok - Wally is off the list for a free ride! ;-)
Uli

On Thursday, June 1, 2017 at 7:00:26 AM UTC-4, wrote:
On Wednesday, May 31, 2017 at 10:21:47 PM UTC-4, AS wrote:
On Wednesday, May 31, 2017 at 7:44:36 PM UTC-4, wrote:
The SSA Rules Committee would like to gauge pilot interest in attending a potential 20 Meter Multiseat Class National Competition if it were hosted at Mifflin in 2018. The Rules Committee has determined that we need to have at least 12 confirmed entries if we are to proceed. Furthermore, time is of the essence if we are to have a chance of making this contest happen. If you would be definitely interested in attending this new National Contest, please respond to this thread or email me at as soon as possible.

Regards,

Bif Huss “H7�
SSA Contest Rules Committee

Would this a handicapped contest?
Uli
'AS'

This class is planned to have limited handicapping with a handicap range from Arcus to abut .05 greater numerical handicap so as to try to draw Duo's, some DG 2 seaters, and possibly others.
UH

Thanks, I am interested - tentatively.
Uli
'AS'