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Old June 9th 17, 08:38 PM
Walt Connelly Walt Connelly is offline
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I am in receipt of an email from the SSA Government Liason representative Mr Northcutt. I am truly amazed at being told that since I am NOT a current member of the Soaring Society of America he is unwilling to discuss my concerns.
He did go on to make three bullet points which make me think he did not read my email.

To say that perhaps the facility at which I worked need to address their training is a bit presumptative. One pilot was not from this field, but one of the many who come down to this facility due to the weather. The second was a 15 year old solo student on her third pull. For those of you familiar with the USAFA accident where the cadet instructor noted she was above the tow plane with a "taught" rope and decided to increase pitch to slow up and allow the tow pilot to get back in position I would ask, "how can we expect a 15 year old student to understand the importance of releasing in such a position if a USAFA student and CFI-G doesn't understand and react properly?

I am well aware of the FAA requirements for PIC. The airplanes I was flying were not unsafe to fly and the Schweizer hook system is approved by the FAA. My concern is one that has been expressed by other pilots and which has directly contributed to the death of more than one tow pilot here and in other countries.

My investigation of the available information continues, it will take some time but I will try to be as thorough as possible.

Walt
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Old June 10th 17, 03:01 AM posted to rec.aviation.soaring
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Do you even fly bro?
On Friday, June 9, 2017 at 8:43:08 PM UTC-4, Walt Connelly wrote:
I am in receipt of an email from the SSA Government Liason
representative Mr Northcutt. I am truly amazed at being told that
since I am NOT a current member of the Soaring Society of America he is
unwilling to discuss my concerns.
He did go on to make three bullet points which make me think he did not
read my email.

To say that perhaps the facility at which I worked need to address their
training is a bit presumptative. One pilot was not from this field, but
one of the many who come down to this facility due to the weather. The
second was a 15 year old solo student on her third pull. For those of
you familiar with the USAFA accident where the cadet instructor noted
she was above the tow plane with a "taught" rope and decided to increase
pitch to slow up and allow the tow pilot to get back in position I would
ask, "how can we expect a 15 year old student to understand the
importance of releasing in such a position if a USAFA student and CFI-G
doesn't understand and react properly?

I am well aware of the FAA requirements for PIC. The airplanes I was
flying were not unsafe to fly and the Schweizer hook system is approved
by the FAA. My concern is one that has been expressed by other pilots
and which has directly contributed to the death of more than one tow
pilot here and in other countries.

My investigation of the available information continues, it will take
some time but I will try to be as thorough as possible.

Walt




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Walt Connelly


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Old June 10th 17, 05:33 AM posted to rec.aviation.soaring
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I would think that any institution we deal with, FAA, SSA, EAA, AOPA etc,. etc. should take with highest level of seriousness any remark concerning safety made by a pilot and based on his/her life-threatening experience in flight, member or not.

Several years ago when flying their LS-4 at Soar Minden I was in a situation after landing where the wheel brake, activated by pushing both rudder pedals, seemingly didn't work on a roll-out. I was happy I didn't hit any one on the tarmac. I quickly found out that you have to push with your HEELS, and not FEET. I reported my observation to their instructor with a reference to a possible wrong translation in the glider's Flight Manual, which I had studied before the flight. Some time later checking their web site I was pleased and grateful to see they had reacted and put a proper remark in the manual. The German original reads: "wird mit den Absätzen bedient". I just found the English manual for the LS-4A on-line, and it reads correctly now: "Press rudder pedals with heels to activate wheel brake" - so it must have been amended officially.

Just an example of a proper concern instead of a denial.

Tom BravoMike
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Old June 10th 17, 04:17 PM
Walt Connelly Walt Connelly is offline
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I would think that any institution we deal with, FAA, SSA, EAA, AOPA etc,. etc. should take with highest level of seriousness any remark concerning safety made by a pilot and based on his/her life-threatening experience in flight, member or not.

Several years ago when flying their LS-4 at Soar Minden I was in a situation after landing where the wheel brake, activated by pushing both rudder pedals, seemingly didn't work on a roll-out. I was happy I didn't hit any one on the tarmac. I quickly found out that you have to push with your HEELS, and not FEET. I reported my observation to their instructor with a reference to a possible wrong translation in the glider's Flight Manual, which I had studied before the flight. Some time later checking their web site I was pleased and grateful to see they had reacted and put a proper remark in the manual. The German original reads: "wird mit den Absätzen bedient". I just found the English manual for the LS-4A on-line, and it reads correctly now: "Press rudder pedals with heels to activate wheel brake" - so it must have been amended officially.

Just an example of a proper concern instead of a denial.

Tom BravoMike
I would think the same Tom but apparently the SSA is less concerned with safety and more concerned with who is and who is not a member of the club. But for that matter every club and commercial operation out there still flying with Schweizer hooks and release handles not immediately accessable by the tow pilot are not concerned with safety either.

Walt
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Old June 10th 17, 07:49 PM posted to rec.aviation.soaring
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On Saturday, June 10, 2017 at 2:43:07 PM UTC-4, Walt Connelly wrote:

I would think the same Tom but apparently the SSA is less concerned with
safety and more concerned with who is and who is not a member of the
club. But for that matter every club and commercial operation out there
still flying with Schweizer hooks and release handles not immediately
accessable by the tow pilot are not concerned with safety either.

Walt


So you weren't concerned with safety, either, until very recently?

best,
Evan Ludeman / T8
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Old June 11th 17, 05:21 AM posted to rec.aviation.soaring
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There are treatments for PTSD that don't involve the FAA.

The odds of anything rational and positive coming from involving .GOV is really poor.
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Old June 11th 17, 01:56 PM
Walt Connelly Walt Connelly is offline
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There are treatments for PTSD that don't involve the FAA.

The odds of anything rational and positive coming from involving .GOV is really poor.
Please tell me what treatment is available to a dead tow pilot who tried to release a glider with a Schweizer hook and died as a result of a well documented flaw of that release?

Walt
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Old June 11th 17, 01:57 PM
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Originally Posted by Tango Eight View Post
On Saturday, June 10, 2017 at 2:43:07 PM UTC-4, Walt Connelly wrote:

I would think the same Tom but apparently the SSA is less concerned with
safety and more concerned with who is and who is not a member of the
club. But for that matter every club and commercial operation out there
still flying with Schweizer hooks and release handles not immediately
accessable by the tow pilot are not concerned with safety either.

Walt


So you weren't concerned with safety, either, until very recently?

best,
Evan Ludeman / T8
Evan, I would say that your thought process needs some work.

Walt
 




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