Could the Press Grow a Spine?

"Steven P. McNicoll" wrote in message link.net...
"Fred the Red Shirt" wrote in message
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The same way that lesser laws remain intact though they are routinely
violated.


What lesser laws?

State and Federal criminal laws, among others.

It wasn't a trick question, I'm not clear on what you didn't
understand.

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FF

"Fred the Red Shirt" wrote in message
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State and Federal criminal laws, among others.

It wasn't a trick question, I'm not clear on what you didn't
understand.


I was giving the benefit of the doubt. There's no similarity between
someone stealing a car and Congress or the President or the USSC acting
contrary to the Constitution.

"Steven P. McNicoll" wrote in message link.net...
"Fred the Red Shirt" wrote in message
om...

State and Federal criminal laws, among others.

It wasn't a trick question, I'm not clear on what you didn't
understand.


I was giving the benefit of the doubt. There's no similarity between
someone stealing a car and Congress or the President or the USSC acting
contrary to the Constitution.

IMHO, accusations that the USSC acts contrary to the Constituion
are typically hot air and sour grapes.

As to the Congress or the President, the USSC has just recently
stepped up to the plate and put them both in their places IRT
unconstituional law and unconstitutional executive action.

Even when ruings by the USSC are successfully defied, the
Constitution itself remains intact. The Constitution is
our contract with our government, the USSC is the arbiter
of that conract and when that arbiter sides with us it
is our job to collect.

Were essential elements of the Constitutino to be repealed, for
example to give the President the power to suspend habeas corpus,
levy taxes, or to establish courts martial then the Constitution
would no longer be intact. Until then, if our government
defies the Constitution successfully we can only blame our lack
wisdom and resolve as citizens for our failure to force our
government to comply with our Constitution.

Yet the Constituion itself will remain intact, patiently awaiting
enforcement by a people of higher character.

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FF

Fred the Red Shirt wrote:

IMHO, accusations that the USSC acts contrary to the Constituion
are typically hot air and sour grapes.

[....]

Even when ruings by the USSC are successfully defied, the
Constitution itself remains intact. The Constitution is
our contract with our government, the USSC is the arbiter
of that conract and when that arbiter sides with us it
is our job to collect.

[....]

Yet the Constituion itself will remain intact, patiently awaiting
enforcement by a people of higher character.


WELL SAID, FRED!

And, yes, that praise is appropriately shouted.

Thankfully there are a few here like you and Rasimus who know how to
state the case (not to mention also being able to see through the fog of
war, politics, & just plain BS in the first place).


--
Jack

"Cave ab homine unius libri"

"Fred the Red Shirt" wrote in message
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IMHO, accusations that the USSC acts contrary to the Constituion
are typically hot air and sour grapes.


Then you are either unfamiliar with USSC rulings, the Constitution, or both.

"Steven P. McNicoll" wrote in message hlink.net...
"Fred the Red Shirt" wrote in message
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IMHO, accusations that the USSC acts contrary to the Constituion
are typically hot air and sour grapes.


Then you are either unfamiliar with USSC rulings, the Constitution, or both.

Or you won't show an example of a USSC ruling that goes against the
Constitution. I'll agree as they occur, but they are rare.

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FF

Subject: Could the Press Grow a Spine?
From: (Fred the Red Shirt)
Date: 7/10/2004 11:58 PM Pacific

Or you won't show an example of a USSC ruling that goes against the
Constitution. I'll agree as they occur, but they are rare.


The SCOTUS over ruling a state supreme Court.


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Subject: Could the Press Grow a Spine?
From: (Fred the Red Shirt)
Date: 7/10/2004 11:58 PM Pacific

Or you won't show an example of a USSC ruling that goes against the
Constitution. I'll agree as they occur, but they are rare.


The SCOTUS over ruling a state supreme Court.



That's part of their job.

IMHO, half of the decision in Bush v Gore, the 7 - 2 finding that
the equal protection clause was violated by the FL electoral system
was in agreement with the Constitution. In view of this, one finds
the 5 - 4 decision forbidding FL from correcting the situation
particularly boggling.

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FF